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Presumably there are a lot of atheists who do believe all three of these things: 1. God does not exist. 2. Objective ethics do exist. 3. Objective ethics do
by tshaddox 10mo ago
Presumably there are a lot of atheists who do believe all three of these things:
1. God does not exist.
2. Objective ethics do exist.
3. Objective ethics do not come directly from the mandate of a friend, a companion, or another human.
- publicdebates 10mo agoEven if so, that only answers the "morals" part of what I listed. Where for example do they derive absolutely objective goals from?
- tshaddox 10mo agoI was lumping all of those into "ethics," which refers to all normative questions (or questions about "ought"s, if you like).
- barbazoo 10mo ago> goals, means, and sustenance Surely not sustenance in the sense of food so I presume it's what we usually call meaning? People might get it from whatever fulfills them. For many it's giving back to the community in some way. It's not something I was told, more something that feels right and would scale well if everyone did it. What are absolutely objective goals here? Are we talking about what do I want to be true at the end of my life? Staying healthy, looking back when you're old and not regretting a lot, being part of and respected by your community, those things. What would be a goal that God would suggest one works toward in this context. Can you relate that to what you have in mind?