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Indiscriminately?
by baggy_trough 10mo ago
Indiscriminately?
- potato3732842 10mo agoThey only discriminated to the extent to which the specific product they went after correlated with the people they actually wanted to kill.
- standardUser 10mo agoThe locations of the detonations were indiscriminate, the intended targets were not.
- embedding-shape 10mo agoYes, seemingly so. I guess we'd have to wait for full investigations to conclude before saying for sure, but sure looks like it. > “To the extent that international humanitarian law applies, at the time of the attacks there was no way of knowing who possessed each device and who was nearby,” the experts said. “Simultaneous attacks by thousands of devices would inevitably violate humanitarian law, by failing to verify each target, and distinguish between protected civilians and those who could potentially be attacked for taking a direct part in hostilities." > “Such attacks could constitute war crimes of murder, attacking civilians, and launching indiscriminate attacks, in addition to violating the right to life,” the experts said. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pagers-and-radios-terrifying-violation-international-law-say-un https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pa...
- lobf 10mo agoI mean, who else is using a pager in Lebanon? That's not a tool a normal consumer uses, it's only used by people to evade phone surveillance. I think it sounds like a high probability that anyone receiving one of these pages in Lebanon is part of Hezbollah.
- embedding-shape 10mo ago> I mean, who else is using a pager in Lebanon? But they can impossibly actually know who physically has the pager next to them, when they're triggering them. This is the "failing to verify each target" part.
- baggy_trough 10mo agoThat's not a very realistic standard for a wartime covert operation.
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- embedding-shape 10mo agoMaybe that's the wrong way to think about it? Maybe these "wartime covert operations" need to read up on Human Rights and figure out a way to work within it?
- baggy_trough 10mo agoSounds like a unilateral disarmament, which is not how to win a war. Hamas and the like have no concern with human rights of course.
- hnaccount_rng 10mo agoI mean in the case in Lebanon they knew. They sold those pagers to Hezbollah.
- lobf 10mo agoIs this a SoP in wartime?