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I considered fastmail. Their integration with android contacts is terrible,you have to maintain contacts separately. I can do that,but it doesn't work for non t

I considered fastmail. Their integration with android contacts is terrible,you have to maintain contacts separately. I can do that,but it doesn't work for non technical users of my family.

scblock 10mo ago
This is actually Google's fault, of course. Vendor lock-in. The experience on iOS is similarly frustrating.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 10mo ago
  How's that possible? It seems like Whatsapp integrates seamlessly with my contacts
- TheNewsIsHere 10mo ago
  I don’t have any complains with contact management on iOS with Fastmail. Apple’s CardDAV and CalDAV implementations are way better than they used to be. What issues are you seeing?
- mmh0000 10mo ago
  > The experience on iOS is similarly frustrating. I agree with "frustrating," but it is solvable without 3rd-party software. https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279941-Set-up-iOS-devices-iOS-12-and-13 https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279941-Se... You can either use their "Device profile" or do it manually.
mmh0000 10mo ago
You need https://www.davx5.com/ https://www.davx5.com/ It'll do bi-directional sync between Android contacts/calendar and Fastmail (or any other CardDav/CalDav server) Also available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/at.bitfire.davdroid/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/at.bitfire.davdroid/
- TheChaplain 10mo ago
  Another happy davx5 user here, it is so good I donated.
- mmh0000 10mo ago
  See also: https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279881-Set-up-Fastmail-on-Android https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279881-Se... Android does not support CalDAV or CardDAV, which are used to sync calendars and contacts. However, a workaround is installing a CalDAV or CardDAV sync adapter. We have tested and recommend DAVx⁵, which is approximately $5. Once you have added your account in DAVx⁵, you can set up calendars or contacts in the app of your choice, and the changes will sync with Fastmail.

I considered fastmail. Their integration with android contacts is terrible,you have to maintain contacts separately. I can do that,but it doesn't work for non technical users of my family.

scblock 10mo ago

This is actually Google's fault, of course. Vendor lock-in. The experience on iOS is similarly frustrating.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 10mo ago
How's that possible? It seems like Whatsapp integrates seamlessly with my contacts
TheNewsIsHere 10mo ago
I don’t have any complains with contact management on iOS with Fastmail. Apple’s CardDAV and CalDAV implementations are way better than they used to be. What issues are you seeing?
mmh0000 10mo ago
> The experience on iOS is similarly frustrating. I agree with "frustrating," but it is solvable without 3rd-party software. https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279941-Set-up-iOS-devices-iOS-12-and-13 https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279941-Se... You can either use their "Device profile" or do it manually.

mmh0000 10mo ago

You need https://www.davx5.com/ https://www.davx5.com/ It'll do bi-directional sync between Android contacts/calendar and Fastmail (or any other CardDav/CalDav server) Also available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/at.bitfire.davdroid/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/at.bitfire.davdroid/

TheChaplain 10mo ago
Another happy davx5 user here, it is so good I donated.
mmh0000 10mo ago
See also: https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279881-Set-up-Fastmail-on-Android https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/1500000279881-Se... Android does not support CalDAV or CardDAV, which are used to sync calendars and contacts. However, a workaround is installing a CalDAV or CardDAV sync adapter. We have tested and recommend DAVx⁵, which is approximately $5. Once you have added your account in DAVx⁵, you can set up calendars or contacts in the app of your choice, and the changes will sync with Fastmail.