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It's a provocative headline. A more reasonable statement of the army standing orders / Rules of Engagement would be: > The military has authorization to c
by manarth 9mo ago
It's a provocative headline.
A more reasonable statement of the army standing orders / Rules of Engagement would be:
> The military has authorization to counter-attack an *invading force* without waiting for further approval from the command chain
I've emphasized invading force – it's not a general free-for-all fire-at-will.
This is a standing order which dates back to 1952, and hasn't been created as a response to the recent aggressive posturing.
- iammjm 9mo agoThe headline explicitly mentions an invasion, and the whole debate is within the context of potential US invasion of Greenland, so I dont see what makes this headline "provocative".
- tylervigen 9mo agoBecause it’s not like they were given new orders to “shoot first and ask questions later.” It’s just a normal standing defense directive that has always been there. In normal times, no one would describe standing defense orders as “shoot first, ask questions later.”
- saubeidl 9mo agoThe news is that they were explicitly told those orders apply to the US.
- myrmidon 9mo agoThe article says no such thing, it just makes sensationalist implications. The actual meat is: Danish newspaper approaches government and asks if the 1952 order is still in effect-- government replies "yes". Which is a complete non-story because it's the same unchanged, expected outcome since 1952.
- HoJojoMojo 9mo agoProvocative is a stretch. A year ago a Danish soldier who responded to an ambiguous situation involving US bases that might be real or might be an exercise would have been court martialed and probably not able to justify their actions with this law despite it being on the books. The reminder is an emphasis that the US can be presumed to be such an invading force.
- atoav 9mo agoSure. But a year ago the US didn't have a ministry of war and the head of that ministry didn't say he wants to betray and invade an ally. Even the thought of this would have been laughed at for being to satirical a year ago. But hey, Kamala Harris is really radical, right?
- pamcake 9mo agoYou know this how?
- HoJojoMojo 9mo agoThe only NATO-NATO exchange of fire where it wasn't deemed a friendly fire incident or an AMOK that I am aware of are between Greece and Turkey. But feel free to enlighten me on cases where a European country has had soldiers fire on the US and decided this wasn't an internal discipline issue.
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