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Did you read this link? This was what a Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News today, about this specific incident. Are you stating DHS who over

Did you read this link? This was what a Department of Homeland Security official told NBC News today, about this specific incident. Are you stating DHS who overseas ICE conducted a murder so they could spin far left talking points? Keep justifying the murder of a 37 year old mom of a now orphaned child because it threatens your political position.

jacquesm 10mo ago
That's not why they are justifying it: they are justifying it because if they accept it they have to accept fractional responsibility for outcomes such as these and MAGA does not want anything to do with the negative fall out of their own actions.
- mindslight 10mo ago
  From what I've observed solipsistic entitlement blaming everyone else while performing zero self-reflection is a core tenet of "MAGA". It's why boomers are attracted to it like flies to a rotting animal - they were promised everything for buying into the system and had the good life for "working hard", so if someone cannot repeat their "success" (nb. everything bubble) then it must be that person's own fault.
  - jacquesm 10mo ago
    They're going to do (and are already doing) a lot of damage on the way to their final resting place.
    - silexia 10mo ago
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      - mindslight 10mo ago
        jacquesm is a longstanding member of this community with serious technical chops. He has fabricated his own fucking windmill, among many other awe-inducing projects. I am an American, and I generally find his political judgements to be spot on, or if I disagree then at the very least enlightening. Frankly given the abjectly moronic siren song narratives too many of my "fellow countrymen" have fallen for, we could use more outside context from allied countries of the western world to steer us through these dark times. Remember when our friends the French tried to stop us from making that horrible Iraq War mistake and the thanks they got was "freedom fries" ? Meanwhile, you seem to be some kind of fascist-cheerleader who relishes in trolling. All over this thread, you've spared no opportunity to rally support for agents of the state executing an American citizen and mother. I would tell you to get the fuck out of my country, whose values of individual liberty and limited government you clearly have no understanding or appreciation of, before Lady Liberty sticks her torch up your ass. But really you're just sick with social media psychosis, and you need help. (if you want a breadcrumb you might be able to follow to start to get out, you've said you can see the "media manipulation" by "the left". perhaps you could look for the same type of manipulation by "the right", and then ask yourself who has the power right now)
        silexia 10mo ago
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        TimorousBestie 10mo ago
        > BTW - I come to hacker news to learn about entrepreneurs, programming, etc... not to argue politics. Let's go back to what this forum is for. Most of your recent submissions and comments are political. I invite you to go back to posting about entrepreneurs, programming, and etc. if that’s what you’d rather be doing.
        jacquesm 10mo ago
        > Engage on the actual merits of the discussion rather than saying anyone who disagrees with you is supposedly a shill and a bad person. > Am I wrong here? Since you're asking for it: yes. But I can see how from your perspective it looks that way.

jacquesm 10mo ago

That's not why they are justifying it: they are justifying it because if they accept it they have to accept fractional responsibility for outcomes such as these and MAGA does not want anything to do with the negative fall out of their own actions.

mindslight 10mo ago
From what I've observed solipsistic entitlement blaming everyone else while performing zero self-reflection is a core tenet of "MAGA". It's why boomers are attracted to it like flies to a rotting animal - they were promised everything for buying into the system and had the good life for "working hard", so if someone cannot repeat their "success" (nb. everything bubble) then it must be that person's own fault.
- jacquesm 10mo ago
  They're going to do (and are already doing) a lot of damage on the way to their final resting place.
  - silexia 10mo ago
    [flagged]
    - mindslight 10mo ago
      jacquesm is a longstanding member of this community with serious technical chops. He has fabricated his own fucking windmill, among many other awe-inducing projects. I am an American, and I generally find his political judgements to be spot on, or if I disagree then at the very least enlightening. Frankly given the abjectly moronic siren song narratives too many of my "fellow countrymen" have fallen for, we could use more outside context from allied countries of the western world to steer us through these dark times. Remember when our friends the French tried to stop us from making that horrible Iraq War mistake and the thanks they got was "freedom fries" ? Meanwhile, you seem to be some kind of fascist-cheerleader who relishes in trolling. All over this thread, you've spared no opportunity to rally support for agents of the state executing an American citizen and mother. I would tell you to get the fuck out of my country, whose values of individual liberty and limited government you clearly have no understanding or appreciation of, before Lady Liberty sticks her torch up your ass. But really you're just sick with social media psychosis, and you need help. (if you want a breadcrumb you might be able to follow to start to get out, you've said you can see the "media manipulation" by "the left". perhaps you could look for the same type of manipulation by "the right", and then ask yourself who has the power right now)
      - silexia 10mo ago
        [flagged]
        TimorousBestie 10mo ago
        > BTW - I come to hacker news to learn about entrepreneurs, programming, etc... not to argue politics. Let's go back to what this forum is for. Most of your recent submissions and comments are political. I invite you to go back to posting about entrepreneurs, programming, and etc. if that’s what you’d rather be doing.
        jacquesm 10mo ago
        > Engage on the actual merits of the discussion rather than saying anyone who disagrees with you is supposedly a shill and a bad person. > Am I wrong here? Since you're asking for it: yes. But I can see how from your perspective it looks that way.