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It's a question of incentives. From what I've heard: ICE agents are incentivized to the tune of $5000 for every immigrant deported. So they go after the low-han
by mlmonkey 9mo ago
It's a question of incentives. From what I've heard: ICE agents are incentivized to the tune of $5000 for every immigrant deported. So they go after the low-hanging fruits: the immigrants coming in for their periodic immigration court hearings, the Home Depot parking lots, etc.
This is why you hear about old grannies being arrested and deported and random immigrant workers with no criminal history being nabbed.
Basically, ICE is a group of bounty hunters and they have no qualms about breaking the law if it leads to a nice payday.
- sirshmooey 9mo agoThat would certainly explain the lack of publicized confrontation. If they were mostly deporting actual criminals / gang members, one would expect more stories akin to the events today.
- actionfromafar 9mo agoActual criminals may have guns and know how to use them. That's bad risk / reward ratio. They should know, many of ICE are (pardoned) criminals!
- Freedom2 9mo agoWhat's the source on ICE being mostly pardoned criminals? I was under the impression this administration was against criminal gangs.
- actionfromafar 9mo agoNowhere did I say ICE is mostly pardoned criminals. I was under the impression the administration was against criminal gangs the President isn't currently friendly with, such as newly whitewashed and perfumed ISIS leaders, former South American pardoned drug dealing ex-presidents, and such.
- Freedom2 9mo agoGot it, thanks for the clarification. I'm surprised the President of the US is friendly with criminal gangs to be honest - this forum has always said that the US espouses justice with a stern, firm hand.
- actionfromafar 9mo agoThat Presidential hand is pretty bruised lately.
- tehwebguy 9mo agoI'm afraid this will come across as bad faith but it's not: ICE is indistinguishable from a criminal gang to the people they encounter.
- bnjms 9mo agoIt sounds like you’re unfamiliar with January 6th. Many of the people active in J6th were prosecuted. Most were pardoned by Trump. I understand the GP is saying these same people have joined ICE. I’ve seen a picture of one ICE officer(?) with an SS tattoo below their ear. That should bar employment in the law enforcement but there he is.
- actionfromafar 9mo agoHe is not enforcing laws, just following orders. So it tracks.
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- NikolaNovak 9mo agoInteresting ; Do you have any official or investigative links regarding incentives per deportation? I understand their recruitment incentives are out of this world, but have not found reliable source for per-deportation incentives, and want to make sure I argue with 100% factually supported data.
- mlmonkey 9mo agoI do not, unfortunately. It's just something I heard; though it would explain why ICE is going after law-abiding immigrants instead of criminals as originally intended.
- akimbostrawman 9mo ago[flagged]
- AlecSchueler 9mo agoNot always, and this another reason why terms like "illegal immigrants" are so harmful. Someone who is late in renewing their work visa, for example, has committed a civil offense and could be deported by ICE, but they still aren't a criminal in the way someone who crossed the border illegally or used a fraudulent visa would be.
- NikolaNovak 9mo agoThat is a lot less binary than angry evil people would like to portray. If we say there are ~~11 million under documented immigrants, there are literally hundreds of thousands if not millions that e.g. Were legal until the orange orangutan decided otherwise. There are people under ambiguous laws and people in tricky cases. This is the equivalent to saying everybody who went 57mph in 55mph zone is a criminal and should be executed. Life has nuance.
- wakawaka28 9mo ago[flagged]
- bakies 9mo agoi disagree