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I'd strongly prefer the government just not try to tell people what to eat, the incentives will always be perverse and nutrition science is anything but science
by ch4s3 10mo ago
I'd strongly prefer the government just not try to tell people what to eat, the incentives will always be perverse and nutrition science is anything but science in most cases.
EDIT down-thread to prove my point you'll see people citing studies in favor of and against the new recommendations. The studies are almost always in animals or use self reported data with tiny sample sizes.
- mistrial9 10mo ago> not try to tell people what to eat food industry has to be policed -- The Jungle by Upton Sinclair is a high school level story featuring the meat packing industry. All around, additives and substitutes are more profitable than raw ingredients.
- ch4s3 10mo agoI'm clearly not advocating against basic safety oversight. It's worth noting that The Jungle was a work of fiction and Sinclair famously fabricated a lot of details wholesale.
- cosmicgadget 10mo agoThe whole point of government performing the function is that they don't profit from misleading you, rather their goal is the country's welfare. Obviously there are exceptions - particularly right now - but those are solved by rooting out corruption.
- ch4s3 10mo agoYou say that but the food pyramid was devised but the agriculture lobby, and was never based on science.
- cosmicgadget 10mo agoIs this true? Specifically, "devised by" vs "influenced by" and "never based on science" meaning there was no, for example, attempt to improve heart disease rates? In any event, looking at the whole history of food guidance paints a clearer picture of my point. Happy to hear of alternatives though!
- ch4s3 10mo agoI guess it would be more correct to say it was heavily influenced by the ag industry[1]. > attempt to improve heart disease rates The diet basedheart disease science of the early 1990s was totally junk.[2] [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8375951/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8375951/ [2] https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/09/404081/sugar-papers-reveal-industry-role-shifting-national-heart-disease-focus https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2016/09/404081/sugar-papers-reveal...
- cosmicgadget 10mo agoTotally junk or skewed to ignore sugar as a contributor? Again I have to immediately doubt your dire accusations because they diverge from what is said in your link as well as what my physician says about cholesterol. And it's not like the 90s pyramid had sugar at the base.
- ch4s3 10mo agoYes, largely junk. As I mentioned the literature is full of studies that are nothing but some regressions on top of self reported dietary data. It’s almost all very low quality[1]. [1] https://www.science.org/content/article/people-are-bad-reporting-what-they-eat-s-problem-dietary-research https://www.science.org/content/article/people-are-bad-repor...