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Perhaps you're legitimizing his insult because of who he is? I certainly think that if some random person made the same comment, many would not rush to their de

Perhaps you're legitimizing his insult because of who he is? I certainly think that if some random person made the same comment, many would not rush to their defense.

mattdeboard 14y ago
Yeah, I think NDT has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his sentiments about the importance of science and exploration. So yes, it is different than if some random schlub said the same thing.
shrughes 14y ago
No, these are very obviously jokes, not insults. They include several joke tropes so that they're easily recognized as jokes.
- kahawe 14y ago
  What are the tropes in the first joke with the 1mm? Not being a native speaker, these must have been lost on me. The second quote, I agree, there is something there. I just wanted to point out it shouldn't matter how "useless" it is in the perspective of all things because that's pretty much 90% of humanity's doing and playing - just in case anyone took these too serious.
  - shrughes 14y ago
    "I'm just saying" is a trope. It's certainly not as tropey as what you see in the second joke. The humor in the first is in the pure ridiculousness of comparing the height with what it would be on a globe, which is why it's written with the adoption of the sort of persona that would follow up a comment with "I'm just saying."
enraged_camel 14y ago
He's not making fun of the guy who made the jump, but of the marketers who called it "Edge of Space".
- d0mine 14y ago
  Exactly. [Outer] Space is 100 km or more
- nicholassmith 14y ago
  Well, there's the fact that marketers are primarily there to make things look interesting. We're all very aware of this. Marketers gonna market. A snappy bit of branding like 'The Edge of Space' sounds much better than 'Jump From High Atmosphere'. 90% of the people who watched probably don't care that it's not technically the edge of space, and whilst we can all spend time quibbling about it and getting semantics right, we're wasting time going "Not technically space!" when we should instead be focussing on the achievements made.
  - tripzilch 14y ago
    The main achievement being convincing this 90% that it was the edge of space.
    - nicholassmith 14y ago
      Really, that's the main achievement of this? Not the testing of the next-gen pressure suits? Or the scientific data on the effects of free-fall and Mach level speeds on the human body? Or the fact that the results will be able to be applied to ongoing efforts with space travel? No, I guess you're right. I'm an idiot.

Perhaps you're legitimizing his insult because of who he is? I certainly think that if some random person made the same comment, many would not rush to their defense.

mattdeboard 14y ago

Yeah, I think NDT has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his sentiments about the importance of science and exploration. So yes, it is different than if some random schlub said the same thing.

shrughes 14y ago

No, these are very obviously jokes, not insults. They include several joke tropes so that they're easily recognized as jokes.

kahawe 14y ago
What are the tropes in the first joke with the 1mm? Not being a native speaker, these must have been lost on me. The second quote, I agree, there is something there. I just wanted to point out it shouldn't matter how "useless" it is in the perspective of all things because that's pretty much 90% of humanity's doing and playing - just in case anyone took these too serious.
- shrughes 14y ago
  "I'm just saying" is a trope. It's certainly not as tropey as what you see in the second joke. The humor in the first is in the pure ridiculousness of comparing the height with what it would be on a globe, which is why it's written with the adoption of the sort of persona that would follow up a comment with "I'm just saying."

enraged_camel 14y ago

He's not making fun of the guy who made the jump, but of the marketers who called it "Edge of Space".

d0mine 14y ago
Exactly. [Outer] Space is 100 km or more
nicholassmith 14y ago
Well, there's the fact that marketers are primarily there to make things look interesting. We're all very aware of this. Marketers gonna market. A snappy bit of branding like 'The Edge of Space' sounds much better than 'Jump From High Atmosphere'. 90% of the people who watched probably don't care that it's not technically the edge of space, and whilst we can all spend time quibbling about it and getting semantics right, we're wasting time going "Not technically space!" when we should instead be focussing on the achievements made.
- tripzilch 14y ago
  The main achievement being convincing this 90% that it was the edge of space.
  - nicholassmith 14y ago
    Really, that's the main achievement of this? Not the testing of the next-gen pressure suits? Or the scientific data on the effects of free-fall and Mach level speeds on the human body? Or the fact that the results will be able to be applied to ongoing efforts with space travel? No, I guess you're right. I'm an idiot.