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Maybe we need patreon equivalents for open source development?

by nemomarx 10mo ago

sosodev 10mo ago
It already exists. Tailwind has had GitHub sponsorships enabled for years but only 5 people have ever given them money that way.
- satvikpendem 10mo ago
  Meanwhile Evan You of Vue JS was making something like 200k just from Patreon before starting void(0) which is venture backed, it's all a marketing problem because I don't think anyone knew their GitHub sponsors even existed, people just don't seem to use it in general. I don't know why Tailwind needed anyone more than Adam, I understand that more people makes the work go faster such as for their Rust compiler but then you run into money problems like this.
- ceejayoz 10mo ago
  They have off-GH sponsorship that's much more widely subscribed. https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor
  - jonas21 10mo ago
    Yeah, it's apparently pulling in over $800K in annual revenue [1]. EDIT: Doing the math on the sponsor list, it's probably around $1M in ARR now. [1] https://petersuhm.com/posts/2025/ https://petersuhm.com/posts/2025/
    - eudamoniac 10mo ago
      I'm sorry but it simply does not cost a million dollars to maintain Tailwind, a CSS library that has no compelling reason to ever change at this point.
Nextgrid 10mo ago
I think we just need better platforms for enterprise procurement. The issue is that currently you either publish as free & open-source and get tons of traction and usage but little funding, or you publish as paid and get no traction. The blocker for paid software isn't actually the money itself (this is solvable by just pricing it reasonably), it's all the red tape that someone has to go through to get their company to purchase a license to begin with. Maybe a marketplace that preemptively does audits, provides insurance, code escrow, licensing, etc ahead of time, that vendors can put their software on it proactively and companies can have accounts where their employees can just open an "app store" and just buy/license software directly? Similar to the AWS marketplace but for libraries.
- speed_spread 10mo ago
  Sounds like the kind of enterprise-class walled garden that IBM or Oracle maintains.

Maybe we need patreon equivalents for open source development?

It already exists. Tailwind has had GitHub sponsorships enabled for years but only 5 people have ever given them money that way.

satvikpendem 10mo ago
Meanwhile Evan You of Vue JS was making something like 200k just from Patreon before starting void(0) which is venture backed, it's all a marketing problem because I don't think anyone knew their GitHub sponsors even existed, people just don't seem to use it in general. I don't know why Tailwind needed anyone more than Adam, I understand that more people makes the work go faster such as for their Rust compiler but then you run into money problems like this.
ceejayoz 10mo ago
They have off-GH sponsorship that's much more widely subscribed. https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor
- jonas21 10mo ago
  Yeah, it's apparently pulling in over $800K in annual revenue [1]. EDIT: Doing the math on the sponsor list, it's probably around $1M in ARR now. [1] https://petersuhm.com/posts/2025/ https://petersuhm.com/posts/2025/
  - eudamoniac 10mo ago
    I'm sorry but it simply does not cost a million dollars to maintain Tailwind, a CSS library that has no compelling reason to ever change at this point.

Nextgrid 10mo ago

I think we just need better platforms for enterprise procurement. The issue is that currently you either publish as free & open-source and get tons of traction and usage but little funding, or you publish as paid and get no traction. The blocker for paid software isn't actually the money itself (this is solvable by just pricing it reasonably), it's all the red tape that someone has to go through to get their company to purchase a license to begin with. Maybe a marketplace that preemptively does audits, provides insurance, code escrow, licensing, etc ahead of time, that vendors can put their software on it proactively and companies can have accounts where their employees can just open an "app store" and just buy/license software directly? Similar to the AWS marketplace but for libraries.

speed_spread 10mo ago
Sounds like the kind of enterprise-class walled garden that IBM or Oracle maintains.