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My prediction of how a hostile takeover would work out - i.e. all US offers to purchase Greenland are flat rejected: 0. USA invades Greenland by shipping thous
by TrackerFF 9mo ago
My prediction of how a hostile takeover would work out - i.e. all US offers to purchase Greenland are flat rejected:
0. USA invades Greenland by shipping thousands of troops there, Denmark does the same. I don't believe there will be any direct conflict, but rather that US simply declares they now control Greenland.
1. Denmark invokes a number of NATO articles, immediately.
2. NATO crisis, all members meet in hopes to work it out.
3. Trump won't budge. USA uses their veto right on all possible interventions. NATO still stands, but is at this point in complete turmoil, and effectively toothless.
4. Allies of Denmark, probably EU too, puts pressure on the US to step back. Economic sanctions against US.
5. Sanction war starts between USA and parts of western Europe.
6. Congress does not authorize Trumps use of military, and Trump must withdraw within 90 days.
7. Trump vetoes this. Pulls the "make me" card when threatened. Trump argues that he can use funds as he wishes, dragged to court. The case is fast-tracked to supreme court.
8. If US economy crashes, Trump might be successfully impeached and removed. If not, he'll just continue.
9. Cold front between US and Europe. China tries to strengthen economic ties with Europe to fill the gap that has been hit by US sanctions. Who knows what Russia does - likely a new European military organization has grown out of this.
10. Eventually Trump leaves office, a sooner or later a new democratic president takes over, and reverses everything. Gives back Greenland to Denmark, does everything to mend relations with Europe.
- oneeyedpigeon 9mo ago> does everything to mend relations with Europe. As a European, I don't think the relations can be fully mended, especially if points 0-9 come to pass! Even where we stand right now, I want my government—in conjunction with other European countries—to be planning for a long, slow process of decoupling our dependency on the US.
- TrackerFF 9mo agoYes, that's the dangerous thing about this. Even if most European leaders understand that Trump might be a once-in-a-century anomaly, the seed has been planted. Who knows when the next one comes around? Trump, on the other hand, is a huge stress-tester of the US system. He knows that seemingly no mater what he does, he might just face impeachment, but not removal. So his go-to strategy is to break laws, and challenge them in court. All the way up to supreme court. This is why all the checks and balances are sort-of useless at the moment. We know Trump will just ignore them, instruct people to ignore them, and challenge them. And even if he's doing blatantly illegal stuff that would land his cronies in jail, the DOJ won't go after them. Trump understands that he will never, ever serve a single day in jail. He'll argue that everything he's doing, he's doing as a president, and with the immunity that comes with it. He'll issue pre-emptive pardons for his cronies, and probably himself. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up stepping down toward the end of his term, and Vance also issues pardons for Trump. He's emboldened, knows that he's untouchable, and is easily manipulated by his orbiters. And, frankly, I believe he has limited time left - he's not a man that will live to be 100.
- TMWNN 9mo ago>6. Congress does not authorize Trumps use of military, and Trump must withdraw within 90 days. No US president, regardless of party, has ever recognized the constitutionality of the War Powers Act. When a president sends reports to Congress of the sort the act mandates, the report typically includes a disclaimer stating as much. >If US economy crashes Any European attempt to "crash" the US economy would result in worse results for Europe. Only 7% of US GDP comes from foreign trade, by far the smallest of any developed nation. The US is Denmark's largest export customer, while Denmark is almost insignificant as a US customer. Example: One often-suggested penalty against the US is Novo Nordisk suspending sales to Americans. Even setting aside the fact that the US's Lilly's own GLP-1 has handily commercially outperformed Ozempic (as seen in their relative stock prices), the US was *57%* of Novo Nordisk's sales in 2024. <https://www.novonordisk.com/content/dam/nncorp/global/en/investors/irmaterial/annual_report/2025/novo-nordisk-annual-report-2024.pdf https://www.novonordisk.com/content/dam/nncorp/global/en/inv...>
- spiderfarmer 9mo ago> Any European attempt to "crash" the US economy would result in worse results for Europe. So what? We'll recover.
- TrackerFF 9mo agoThe US stock market is being carried by tech companies. Any large-scale sanctions against Europe would hit said tech firms hard, for no other reason than that they need all the customers they can get. Crashing the stock market could in turn induce panic, which in the end will reflect poorly on the president. The whole goal of such a (economic) war would be to make US senators and congressmen take a stand, and decide if enough is enough. Americans vote with their pocketbooks. Just introducing extra tariffs on specific industries and companies in specific states can be politically devastating. Now imagine full-blown sanctions. Not to mention that US competition will happily step up to take their lunch, while all this going on. China will instantly jump on that opportunity. US firms will also recognize that sanctions on things like tech will drive innovation in Europe to fill that void, in tandem with what China and others have to offer. Will both recover? Yes, probably. But hopefully Trump will be out, as that will be the main objective.
- ChoGGi 9mo ago10. That's more hopeful than my thoughts of world war III and the Trump family presidency. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
- marginallen 9mo ago[dead]