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What will it cost though? They keep talking industrial, I guess it will be very expensive. You would hope that a company like Hyundai can mass produce these thi

What will it cost though? They keep talking industrial, I guess it will be very expensive. You would hope that a company like Hyundai can mass produce these things for a sane price really.

Tempest1981 10mo ago
> will be very expensive Expensive compared to other industrial robots? Maybe wait for a consumer version... without 56 DoF. Although who knows what kind of laundry folding might be possible with 56 degrees of freedom, and fully rotating joints!
- anonzzzies 10mo ago
  Just curious about the price of these once the roll of the line. I would pay 150k for it today, not 500k. So I wonder if I will have one next year or not. And for now; who knows if it can fold laundry, literally the only demos we get is dancing and marial arts, 2 things I could not care less about. I want my house painted in whatever hot weather (painters don't work in the summer here because too hot), laundry picked up, stairs cleaned etc. I don't need a 100k robot doing Korean dances. But I think this 56 DoF might be more interesting than whatever the consumer product will be, as the consumer products seem to be vastly worse even than the industrial ones and both had 'sketchy' demos of doing very simple tasks (slow, parkinson like, many takes, often with someone controlling it with vr glasses and controller).
  - garciasn 10mo ago
    Many outlets are quoting Morgan Stanley analysts suggesting they’ll start at $150K. Here is a non-paywalled article that has some info about the MS claim: https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/automation/hyundai-prepares-humanoid-robots-for-vehicle-production/2582616 https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/automation/... From the article: Hyundai aims not only to use humanoid robotics but also to scale it industrially. The company plans to build a production system with a capacity of up to 30,000 robots per year. Analysts at Morgan Stanley Research predict the market for humanoid robotics to reach a volume of around five trillion US dollars by the year 2050. For the period around 2028, when Hyundai plans to start scalable production, a unit price of about 150,000 US dollars is expected.
    - sheeshkebab 10mo ago
      You can have a lot of actual human help for $150k, that doesn’t break down every hour.
      - binary132 10mo ago
        $150k is about 2-3 manufacturing floor salaries for one year. I am quite certain many companies would prefer to buy a compliant robot slave that will never ask for a raise, take sick leave, or get demoralized than to pay 2-3 fulltime employees the value of their labor, only to have them leave for a better job 6 months later and have to train new ones all over again.
      - overfeed 10mo ago
        humans can only work 8-12 hours per day.
      - MagicMoonlight 10mo ago
        150k is the cost of a single employee 24/7 for one year. You might get twenty years out of it.

What will it cost though? They keep talking industrial, I guess it will be very expensive. You would hope that a company like Hyundai can mass produce these things for a sane price really.

Tempest1981 10mo ago

> will be very expensive Expensive compared to other industrial robots? Maybe wait for a consumer version... without 56 DoF. Although who knows what kind of laundry folding might be possible with 56 degrees of freedom, and fully rotating joints!

anonzzzies 10mo ago
Just curious about the price of these once the roll of the line. I would pay 150k for it today, not 500k. So I wonder if I will have one next year or not. And for now; who knows if it can fold laundry, literally the only demos we get is dancing and marial arts, 2 things I could not care less about. I want my house painted in whatever hot weather (painters don't work in the summer here because too hot), laundry picked up, stairs cleaned etc. I don't need a 100k robot doing Korean dances. But I think this 56 DoF might be more interesting than whatever the consumer product will be, as the consumer products seem to be vastly worse even than the industrial ones and both had 'sketchy' demos of doing very simple tasks (slow, parkinson like, many takes, often with someone controlling it with vr glasses and controller).
- garciasn 10mo ago
  Many outlets are quoting Morgan Stanley analysts suggesting they’ll start at $150K. Here is a non-paywalled article that has some info about the MS claim: https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/automation/hyundai-prepares-humanoid-robots-for-vehicle-production/2582616 https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/automation/... From the article: Hyundai aims not only to use humanoid robotics but also to scale it industrially. The company plans to build a production system with a capacity of up to 30,000 robots per year. Analysts at Morgan Stanley Research predict the market for humanoid robotics to reach a volume of around five trillion US dollars by the year 2050. For the period around 2028, when Hyundai plans to start scalable production, a unit price of about 150,000 US dollars is expected.
  - sheeshkebab 10mo ago
    You can have a lot of actual human help for $150k, that doesn’t break down every hour.
    - binary132 10mo ago
      $150k is about 2-3 manufacturing floor salaries for one year. I am quite certain many companies would prefer to buy a compliant robot slave that will never ask for a raise, take sick leave, or get demoralized than to pay 2-3 fulltime employees the value of their labor, only to have them leave for a better job 6 months later and have to train new ones all over again.
    - overfeed 10mo ago
      humans can only work 8-12 hours per day.
    - MagicMoonlight 10mo ago
      150k is the cost of a single employee 24/7 for one year. You might get twenty years out of it.