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You say this like it's some kind of ominous revelation, but that's just how capitalism works? Yeah, prepare for the future. All things are impermanent.

goatlover 9mo ago
I suppose as long as either humans are always able to use new tools to create new jobs, or the wealth gets shared in a fully automated society, it won't be ominous. There are other scenarios.
- 6177c40f 9mo ago
  I think we might make new jobs, but maybe not enough. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get good at sharing wealth over the next few years. Maybe something like UBI will become so obviously necessary that it becomes politically feasible, I don't know. I suspect we'll probably limp along for awhile in mediocrity. Then we'll die. Same as it ever was. The important thing is to have fun with it.
wiseowise 9mo ago
> Yeah, prepare for the future. Well excuse the shit out of my goddamn French, but being comfy for years and suddenly facing literal doom of my profession in a year wasn't on my bingo card. And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Shit out a couple of mil out of my ass and invest asap?
- garblegarble 9mo ago
  >And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Not the person you're responding to but... if you think it's a horse -> car change (and, to stretch the metaphor, if you think you're in the business of building stables) then preparation means train in another profession. If you think it's a hand tools -> power tools change, learn how to use the new tools so you don't get left behind. My opinion is it's a hand -> power tools change, and that LLMs give me the power to solve more problems for clients, and do it faster and more predictably than a client trying to achieve the same with an LLM. I hope I'm right :-)
  - simonw 9mo ago
    That's a good analogy. I'm on team hand tools to power tools too.
    - SoftTalker 9mo ago
      Why do you suppose that these tools will conveniently stop improving at some point that increases your productivity but are still too much for your clients to use for themselves?
      - simonw 9mo ago
        Because I've seen how difficult it is to get a client to explain to me what they need their software to do.
        SoftTalker 9mo ago
        And so the AI will develop the skills to interview the client and determine what they really need. There are textbooks written on how to do this, it's not going to be hard to incorporate into the training.
    - th0ma5 9mo ago
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- 6177c40f 9mo ago
  Sharpen sticks, hoard water maybe? We were always going to die someday, I don't see how this changes things.

goatlover 9mo ago

I suppose as long as either humans are always able to use new tools to create new jobs, or the wealth gets shared in a fully automated society, it won't be ominous. There are other scenarios.

6177c40f 9mo ago
I think we might make new jobs, but maybe not enough. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get good at sharing wealth over the next few years. Maybe something like UBI will become so obviously necessary that it becomes politically feasible, I don't know. I suspect we'll probably limp along for awhile in mediocrity. Then we'll die. Same as it ever was. The important thing is to have fun with it.

wiseowise 9mo ago

> Yeah, prepare for the future. Well excuse the shit out of my goddamn French, but being comfy for years and suddenly facing literal doom of my profession in a year wasn't on my bingo card. And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Shit out a couple of mil out of my ass and invest asap?

garblegarble 9mo ago
>And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Not the person you're responding to but... if you think it's a horse -> car change (and, to stretch the metaphor, if you think you're in the business of building stables) then preparation means train in another profession. If you think it's a hand tools -> power tools change, learn how to use the new tools so you don't get left behind. My opinion is it's a hand -> power tools change, and that LLMs give me the power to solve more problems for clients, and do it faster and more predictably than a client trying to achieve the same with an LLM. I hope I'm right :-)
- simonw 9mo ago
  That's a good analogy. I'm on team hand tools to power tools too.
  - SoftTalker 9mo ago
    Why do you suppose that these tools will conveniently stop improving at some point that increases your productivity but are still too much for your clients to use for themselves?
    - simonw 9mo ago
      Because I've seen how difficult it is to get a client to explain to me what they need their software to do.
      - SoftTalker 9mo ago
        And so the AI will develop the skills to interview the client and determine what they really need. There are textbooks written on how to do this, it's not going to be hard to incorporate into the training.
  - th0ma5 9mo ago
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6177c40f 9mo ago
Sharpen sticks, hoard water maybe? We were always going to die someday, I don't see how this changes things.