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The problem is "fandoms" as a whole have now become such toxic hellscapes I'd rather just enjoy the game/movie/TV series myself and completely ignore what anyon

The problem is "fandoms" as a whole have now become such toxic hellscapes I'd rather just enjoy the game/movie/TV series myself and completely ignore what anyone else's opinion of it is. I don't need things that bring me joy to be ruined by the most obsessive weirdos in the world.

crims0n 9mo ago
Sites back then had benevolent dictators that curated an experience for fans. I think in many ways it worked better than the democratized communities we have today.
- roywiggins 9mo ago
  All fun and games until the one person running the site crashes out and rage quits, taking the site down with it.
  - bombcar 9mo ago
    The thing was you had so many sites that losing one or two was sad, but not hugely destructive.
- Klonoar 9mo ago
  It wasn’t so much “benevolent dictator” as it was “you’re in my house, so quit being a dick”. Toxic fans certainly existed but this approach usually led to them splintering off to create their own thing that’d inevitably wither away. (You can perhaps substitute “wasn’t so much” for some form of “in addition to”)
andrepd 9mo ago
Honestly that's just another thing that's down to algorithmic social media. Echo chambers + rewarding ragebait is an explosive combination.
- tsumnia 9mo ago
  While I agree with current "Top-Level Internet" as I call it, the blurb is referring to the '99-'00s era when we were still very much disconnected. Those clubs had a forum on AOL and that was it. I think Discord is where the "New Internet" is forming, because that's where this generation of kids are hanging out. We were in the Nintendo chat rooms, and they're in the modern day equivalents. We just think they are on Twitch and Kick because that's where the grown ups are playing games, but remember there's a reason Roblox is popular. Kids don't want to hang out with grown ups.
rchaud 9mo ago
That's easily solved by turning off comments or forcing every comment to be approved by an admin before it was displayed; much easier back then as there simply weren't that many people online. The "Web 2.0 read/write web" of XBL lobbies, Battle.net and Discord perverted gaming culture to a point of no return.
- deepsun 9mo ago
  Admins are likely to also be the "obsessive weirdos".
  - psunavy03 9mo ago
    Exhibit A: Reddit.

crims0n 9mo ago

Sites back then had benevolent dictators that curated an experience for fans. I think in many ways it worked better than the democratized communities we have today.

roywiggins 9mo ago
All fun and games until the one person running the site crashes out and rage quits, taking the site down with it.
- bombcar 9mo ago
  The thing was you had so many sites that losing one or two was sad, but not hugely destructive.
Klonoar 9mo ago
It wasn’t so much “benevolent dictator” as it was “you’re in my house, so quit being a dick”. Toxic fans certainly existed but this approach usually led to them splintering off to create their own thing that’d inevitably wither away. (You can perhaps substitute “wasn’t so much” for some form of “in addition to”)

andrepd 9mo ago

Honestly that's just another thing that's down to algorithmic social media. Echo chambers + rewarding ragebait is an explosive combination.

tsumnia 9mo ago
While I agree with current "Top-Level Internet" as I call it, the blurb is referring to the '99-'00s era when we were still very much disconnected. Those clubs had a forum on AOL and that was it. I think Discord is where the "New Internet" is forming, because that's where this generation of kids are hanging out. We were in the Nintendo chat rooms, and they're in the modern day equivalents. We just think they are on Twitch and Kick because that's where the grown ups are playing games, but remember there's a reason Roblox is popular. Kids don't want to hang out with grown ups.

rchaud 9mo ago

That's easily solved by turning off comments or forcing every comment to be approved by an admin before it was displayed; much easier back then as there simply weren't that many people online. The "Web 2.0 read/write web" of XBL lobbies, Battle.net and Discord perverted gaming culture to a point of no return.

deepsun 9mo ago
Admins are likely to also be the "obsessive weirdos".
- psunavy03 9mo ago
  Exhibit A: Reddit.