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Mind sharing the bill for all that?

by hoten 9mo ago

aschobel 9mo ago
i've never hit a limit with my $200 a month plan
OldGreenYodaGPT 9mo ago
My company pays for the team Claude code plan which is like $200 a month for each dev. The workflows cost like 10 - 50 cents a PR
- square_usual 9mo ago
  It's $150, not a huge difference but worth noting that it's not the same ast the 20x Max plan.
- blahblaher 9mo ago
  It will have to quintuple or more to make business sense for Anthropic. Sure, still cheaper than a full time developer, but don't expect it to stay at $200 for a long time. And then, when you explain to your boss how amazing it is, and can do all this work so easily and quickly, it's when your boss start asking the real question: what am I paying you for?
  - bonesss 9mo ago
    More fundamentally: assume a 10 to 30% bump in actual productivity, find a niche (editing software, CRUD frameworks, SharePoint 2.0, stock trading, betting, whatever), and assume you had Anthropics billions or openAIs billions or Microsoft’s billions or Googles billions. Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts. Lockheed-Martin could be, but isn’t, opening lemonade stands outside their offices… they don’t because of how buying a Ferrari works.
    - whattheheckheck 9mo ago
      They data farming your intelligence
    - theshrike79 9mo ago
      > Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts. For the same reason Microsoft never has and never will chase people for pirating home Windows or Office licenses When they hit the workforce, or even better, start a company guess which OS and office suite they'll use? Hint: It's not Linux and Openoffice. Same with Claude's $20 package. It lets devs use it at home and then compare it to the Copilot shit their company is pushing on them. Maybe they either grumble enough to get a Claude license or they're in a position to make the call. Cheap advertising pretty much. Worked for me too :) I've paid my own Claude license for over a year at home, grumbled at work and we got a Claude pilot going now - and everyone who's tried it so far isn't going back to Copilot + Sonnet 4.5/GPT5.
  - benjiro 9mo ago
    A programmer, if we use US standards is probably $8000 per month. If you can get 30% more value out of that programmer (trust me, its WAY more then 30%), you gained $2400 of value. If you pay $200, $500, $1000 for that, its still a net positive. Ignoring the salary range of a actual senior... LLMs do not result in bosses firing people, it results in more projects / faster completed projects, what in turn means more $$$ for a company.
  - senordevnyc 9mo ago
    All the evidence suggests that inference is quite profitable actually.
  - HDThoreaun 9mo ago
    Im not sure about this. What they really need is to get rid of the free tier and widespread adoption. Inference on the $200 plan seems to be profitable right now so they just need more users to amortize training costs.
6177c40f 9mo ago
Cheaper than hiring another developer, probably. My experience: for a few dollars I was able to extensively refactor a Python codebase in half a day. This otherwise would have taken multiple days of very tedious work.
- blahblaher 9mo ago
  And that's what the C-suite wants to know. Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future. Hope you have a good "nest" to support yourself when you're inevitably fired.
  - 6177c40f 9mo ago
    You say this like it's some kind of ominous revelation, but that's just how capitalism works? Yeah, prepare for the future. All things are impermanent.
    - goatlover 9mo ago
      I suppose as long as either humans are always able to use new tools to create new jobs, or the wealth gets shared in a fully automated society, it won't be ominous. There are other scenarios.
      - 6177c40f 9mo ago
        I think we might make new jobs, but maybe not enough. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get good at sharing wealth over the next few years. Maybe something like UBI will become so obviously necessary that it becomes politically feasible, I don't know. I suspect we'll probably limp along for awhile in mediocrity. Then we'll die. Same as it ever was. The important thing is to have fun with it.
    - wiseowise 9mo ago
      > Yeah, prepare for the future. Well excuse the shit out of my goddamn French, but being comfy for years and suddenly facing literal doom of my profession in a year wasn't on my bingo card. And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Shit out a couple of mil out of my ass and invest asap?

Mind sharing the bill for all that?

by hoten 9mo ago

Mind sharing the bill for all that?

aschobel 9mo ago

i've never hit a limit with my $200 a month plan

OldGreenYodaGPT 9mo ago

My company pays for the team Claude code plan which is like $200 a month for each dev. The workflows cost like 10 - 50 cents a PR

square_usual 9mo ago
It's $150, not a huge difference but worth noting that it's not the same ast the 20x Max plan.
blahblaher 9mo ago
It will have to quintuple or more to make business sense for Anthropic. Sure, still cheaper than a full time developer, but don't expect it to stay at $200 for a long time. And then, when you explain to your boss how amazing it is, and can do all this work so easily and quickly, it's when your boss start asking the real question: what am I paying you for?
- bonesss 9mo ago
  More fundamentally: assume a 10 to 30% bump in actual productivity, find a niche (editing software, CRUD frameworks, SharePoint 2.0, stock trading, betting, whatever), and assume you had Anthropics billions or openAIs billions or Microsoft’s billions or Googles billions. Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts. Lockheed-Martin could be, but isn’t, opening lemonade stands outside their offices… they don’t because of how buying a Ferrari works.
  - whattheheckheck 9mo ago
    They data farming your intelligence
  - theshrike79 9mo ago
    > Why on earth would you be hunting $20 a month subscriptions from random assed people? Peanuts. For the same reason Microsoft never has and never will chase people for pirating home Windows or Office licenses When they hit the workforce, or even better, start a company guess which OS and office suite they'll use? Hint: It's not Linux and Openoffice. Same with Claude's $20 package. It lets devs use it at home and then compare it to the Copilot shit their company is pushing on them. Maybe they either grumble enough to get a Claude license or they're in a position to make the call. Cheap advertising pretty much. Worked for me too :) I've paid my own Claude license for over a year at home, grumbled at work and we got a Claude pilot going now - and everyone who's tried it so far isn't going back to Copilot + Sonnet 4.5/GPT5.
- benjiro 9mo ago
  A programmer, if we use US standards is probably $8000 per month. If you can get 30% more value out of that programmer (trust me, its WAY more then 30%), you gained $2400 of value. If you pay $200, $500, $1000 for that, its still a net positive. Ignoring the salary range of a actual senior... LLMs do not result in bosses firing people, it results in more projects / faster completed projects, what in turn means more $$$ for a company.
- senordevnyc 9mo ago
  All the evidence suggests that inference is quite profitable actually.
- HDThoreaun 9mo ago
  Im not sure about this. What they really need is to get rid of the free tier and widespread adoption. Inference on the $200 plan seems to be profitable right now so they just need more users to amortize training costs.

6177c40f 9mo ago

Cheaper than hiring another developer, probably. My experience: for a few dollars I was able to extensively refactor a Python codebase in half a day. This otherwise would have taken multiple days of very tedious work.

blahblaher 9mo ago
And that's what the C-suite wants to know. Prepare yourself to be replaced in the not so distant future. Hope you have a good "nest" to support yourself when you're inevitably fired.
- 6177c40f 9mo ago
  You say this like it's some kind of ominous revelation, but that's just how capitalism works? Yeah, prepare for the future. All things are impermanent.
  - goatlover 9mo ago
    I suppose as long as either humans are always able to use new tools to create new jobs, or the wealth gets shared in a fully automated society, it won't be ominous. There are other scenarios.
    - 6177c40f 9mo ago
      I think we might make new jobs, but maybe not enough. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get good at sharing wealth over the next few years. Maybe something like UBI will become so obviously necessary that it becomes politically feasible, I don't know. I suspect we'll probably limp along for awhile in mediocrity. Then we'll die. Same as it ever was. The important thing is to have fun with it.
  - wiseowise 9mo ago
    > Yeah, prepare for the future. Well excuse the shit out of my goddamn French, but being comfy for years and suddenly facing literal doom of my profession in a year wasn't on my bingo card. And what do you even mean by "prepare"? Shit out a couple of mil out of my ass and invest asap?