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It's a feature of X (so works in any app running in X, not just FF and your terminal emulator). Wayland changed clipboard behaviour (along with many other thing

It's a feature of X (so works in any app running in X, not just FF and your terminal emulator). Wayland changed clipboard behaviour (along with many other things) and decided the selection clipboard was too large a security hole to keep. It's pretty useful though, so Gnome added it back, on top of Wayland. It's still a large security hole though! Separately, PuTTY has a similar mechanism for copy, though this goes in the normal Windows clipboard.

graemep 9mo ago
it works with KDE Wayland except for highlighting text in web browsers
- nofriend 9mo ago
  It works in kde wayland + firefox including highlighting text in web browsers...
  - graemep 9mo ago
    Not for me
  - graemep 9mo ago
    I was wrong. it just worked. I definitely had an issue with it at some point in the past
palata 9mo ago
> It's still a large security hole though! May I ask how it is a large security hole and how it is larger than the "Ctrl+C" clipboard? Genuinely interested.
- takluyver 9mo ago
  A web page with Javascript can see & send off something you paste into a text box as soon as it appears. So if you accidentally paste some confidential information, like a password, that's a security hole even if you notice and delete it straight away. This happens even for totally innocent reasons, like search-as-you-type. Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V copy and paste is not such a big issue because far more people are familiar with it, and it requires more deliberate actions on both sides (copying and pasting). So you're less likely to accidentally copy something around that you didn't mean to.
  - wafflemaker 9mo ago
    So you would still need to paste deliberately. So it's not really a security hole as much as knowing your passwords and muttering them in your sleep is one.
  - palata 9mo ago
    > So if you accidentally paste some confidential information So nothing like a "large security hole" that needs to be fixed, right? I mean at this point, "SSH is a large security hole because people may enter their password while someone looks at their keyboard". I wouldn't consider that a reason to remove SSH.
  - PunchyHamster 9mo ago
    Wouldn't website paste it from clipboard and not primary selection (X11 have those separate) ?

graemep 9mo ago

it works with KDE Wayland except for highlighting text in web browsers

nofriend 9mo ago
It works in kde wayland + firefox including highlighting text in web browsers...
- graemep 9mo ago
  Not for me
- graemep 9mo ago
  I was wrong. it just worked. I definitely had an issue with it at some point in the past

palata 9mo ago

> It's still a large security hole though! May I ask how it is a large security hole and how it is larger than the "Ctrl+C" clipboard? Genuinely interested.

takluyver 9mo ago
A web page with Javascript can see & send off something you paste into a text box as soon as it appears. So if you accidentally paste some confidential information, like a password, that's a security hole even if you notice and delete it straight away. This happens even for totally innocent reasons, like search-as-you-type. Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V copy and paste is not such a big issue because far more people are familiar with it, and it requires more deliberate actions on both sides (copying and pasting). So you're less likely to accidentally copy something around that you didn't mean to.
- wafflemaker 9mo ago
  So you would still need to paste deliberately. So it's not really a security hole as much as knowing your passwords and muttering them in your sleep is one.
- palata 9mo ago
  > So if you accidentally paste some confidential information So nothing like a "large security hole" that needs to be fixed, right? I mean at this point, "SSH is a large security hole because people may enter their password while someone looks at their keyboard". I wouldn't consider that a reason to remove SSH.
- PunchyHamster 9mo ago
  Wouldn't website paste it from clipboard and not primary selection (X11 have those separate) ?