Well maybe but what examples out of real world do you mean? Nobody is justifying anything here btw, I don't get why people hyperfocus on imperfections and clai

Well maybe but what examples out of real world do you mean? Nobody is justifying anything here btw, I don't get why people hyperfocus on imperfections and claim whole thing is useless without understanding underlying reasons and thus options for fixes. Or providing long term working & proven alternatives.