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Trump aide says no-one would fight US over Greenland
- synalice 10mo ago[dead]
- chrisjj 10mo agoQuote: In his interview with CNN, Miller said it was "the formal position of the US government that Greenland should be part of the US". He went on: "By what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is their basis of claiming Greenland as a colony of Denmark?"
- aebtebeten 10mo agoDoes that sound like a threat to you? I'd say the Danes already have sufficient grounds to invoke NATO Art 4: > The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity ... of any of the Parties is threatened. https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/official-texts-and-resources/official-texts/1949/04/04/the-north-atlantic-treaty https://www.nato.int/en/about-us/official-texts-and-resource... What will the US Government longitudinally lay claim to next? The ESA Spaceport? https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Europe_s_Spaceport/Europe_s_Spaceport2 https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Eu... (on the other hand, unlike Denmark, France does have two legs of a triad, so maybe they're waiting a bit before pressing that one; see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46506749 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46506749 )
- mongol 10mo agoI think they will, they just want to wait for the right time. You could argue that the right time is now but I think they are waiting until there is more proof on the ground (and not just talk) that the US is ready to act.
- aebtebeten 10mo agoI am glad to see https://stm.dk/media/qo2dyzxy/erklaering-gl.pdf https://stm.dk/media/qo2dyzxy/erklaering-gl.pdf Perhaps I am just paranoid*, but given the chatter concerning spheres of influence, I would not rule out a DJT/VVP version of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact#:~:text=A%20week%20after,of%20Poland%2e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact#:~:tex... * other unusual logistics: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/05/us-planes-monitor-tanker-ireland-clampdown-venezuelan-oil#:~:text=A%20series%20of,Mildenhall%20on%20Sunday https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/05/us-planes-moni...
- mongol 10mo agoMy father speculated about a Molotov-Ribbentrop variant being played out not long ago. I never even considered it but I am no longer surprised it is speculated about. What we are seing feels eerily similar.
- aebtebeten 9mo agoIt just occurred to me that invoking Article 4 would put Ambassador Whitaker on the spot sooner rather than later: either he shows solidarity with DK, or he provides proof of his intent to filibuster. But I guess the reason they aren't bothering is because we all already know the answer.
- aebtebeten 9mo agoAnother reason not to bother: https://www.government.se/statements/2026/01/joint-statement-by-the-nordic-foreign-ministers-on-greenland/ https://www.government.se/statements/2026/01/joint-statement... With IS and NO on board, the only non-EU NATO members left are AL, CA, MK, TR, and UK. I don't think AL and MK have much in the way of force projection; CA is a pity* (what about TR?); and Airstrip One would have danced to the Great Nation Builder's tune anyway. * a joke I once heard back in the States: — So, what do you think of Canada, eh? — We don't. But wait until we run out of natural resources; then we'll think of you...
- treetalker 10mo agoNotably, one of the rights by which Denmark asserts control over Greenland is the Treaty of the Danish West Indies: > During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indi...
- AnimalMuppet 10mo agoBy what right does the US assert control over Greenland? For that matter, by what right does the US assert control over Venezuela?
- jerlam 10mo agoThe classic rule of "might makes right".
- derbOac 10mo agoI'm so tired of these criminals. They're these black holes of immorality and intellectual deficiency with no insight sucking in the rest of civilization.
- nisegami 10mo agoLabelling Stephen Miller as simply a 'Trump aide' feels almost misleading.
- burnt-resistor 9mo agoHe's baby Goebbels.
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- Rooster61 10mo agoAgreed, this has absolutely nothing to do with tech
- tim-tday 10mo agoPretty sure NATO would be required to fight the US over Greenland.
- AnimalMuppet 10mo agoRequired to... but would they?
- JohnFen 10mo agoI think they would. They'd have to as a matter of self-preservation. If the US could get away with such a thing unopposed, then it unambiguously poses a direct and immediate threat to everyone else (even more so than our warmaking on Venezuela).
- LastTrain 10mo agoIf the US really did do this, yes they would.
- xp84 10mo agoLook, I don’t think there’s a good reason to attempt to take it in the first place, especially when a friendly ally already controls it without any threats of any kind happening (compared to say, the Cuban Missile Crisis for the opposite situation). However, the rest of NATO has nothing to gain from throwing their whole military at the US in the Western Hemisphere. They certainly can’t win that conflict, so what would be the point? Just to kill hundreds of thousands of their troops? They should know that the Americans aren’t going to kill the residents anyway, so it’s really just an idiotic dick-waving contest that Trump wants. The smart move would be to diplomatically retaliate and just screw with the US economically, to extract a concession from the next US President, who won’t have such obtuse ideas and will be eager to make the consequence of this self-inflicted jackassery (like no Americans allowed to visit the EU, EU regulators banning Google and Apple devices, etc) go away.
- aebtebeten 9mo ago
- AnimalMuppet 10mo agoIs anybody else getting "nobody fought Germany over Austria" vibes here?
- aebtebeten 10mo ago"all I want is peace": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64DCO2sI7fI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64DCO2sI7fI