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Hacktivist deletes white supremacist websites live onstage during conference

78 points by ryandrake 10mo ago

like_any_other 10mo ago
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- elektrontamer 10mo ago
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        tavavex 10mo ago
        > gaslight every one about how important winning the Ukraine war was for global stability and the rules based international order For someone who used the preceding paragraph to position themselves against imperialism and authoritarian regimes, that is a very strange statement to make. Ukraine was the one responsible for ringing the alarm bells. If the US deemed Ukraine's total military victory as being beneficial to them, they could've made that happen single-handedly and in very short order, no "gaslighting" required. Instead they chose the endless war-of-attrition + appeasement approach and sent some aid while posturing and making promises. They were terrified of "escalation" and ended up not doing anything. The countries that cared about the war didn't have a lot to send, and the countries that had a lot to send didn't care about the war that much. Now the side that's not scared of escalation is using all that military might to airlift heads of state of sovereign nations. > just to stick their thumbs up their asses when their dictator pulls shit like this is beyond me Is that Biden admin in the room with us right now? The Americans gave the current administration a blank cheque to do anything they want, the not-far-right party's federal role right now had been reduced to looking angry/concerned in hopes that maybe a future election could let them have some power. Unless you seriously expected Biden et al. to storm the White House and coup their current administration, they can't really do anything anymore - and every day, their odds get slimmer as the entire country is being reshaped around them.
        youhatetheleft 10mo ago
        First of all Biden is just as bad as Trump to me I’ll never forget Tony Blinken crying about kids dead in Ukraine then standing there stony faced saying there was no genocide in Gaza. The Democrats are just the friendly face of Imperalism, under Trump you get to see that same violence just this time it’s turned inwards as well. I hate both of those parties the world would be a better place if we got rid of both of them. Here is a fun folk song for you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA The Ukraine war is an imperialist war two competing bourgeoises one backed by the west the other backed by Russia are fighting over who can plunder Ukraine. There was no side worth supporting there. Also being afraid of escalation against a nuclear armed state is perfectly reasonable. A full out war with Russia that could go nuclear isn’t off the table. The western media likes to pretend their wars are about human rights and national sovereignty it’s not and the west couldn’t give a damn about either of those things, see Gaza and Venezuala. Venezuala wasn’t always as authoritarian as it became under Maduro it got worse and worse as the United States increased its efforts to topple the regime with sanctions and funding the opposition you know the normal regime change shit the United States pulls everywhere. I dont support Russia. lol the Biden admin shot its self in the foot so many times first by refusing to pick up the phone to stop a genocide then Biden chose to run even though he was way to old. Kamala also refused to say anything about Gaza it lost her the election. I worked for those assholes for free fuck them, and any one who still sits around defending the United States as if it’s some beacon of democracy is a joke. That shitty government has me on a watch list for the crime of calling out the band of criminals and fascists that run that country. The war could of been prevented Ukraine was offered a deal where they could of been neutral and kept their freedom Borris Johnson was sent my Victoria Neuland to scuttle that deal. Americans love war and they love boosting their military industrial complex just check how well their stocks have been doing recently. They were panicking when Afghanistan ended they needed a new conflict. Nobody in the US government gives a shit about the lives of the innocent civilians that they kill as long as it furthers their psychotic ends. I focus my ire on the United States mainly because they’re the country that is meant to hold up the international order, they’ve shown time and time again that they’ll ignore it.
        soldthat 10mo ago
      - krapp 10mo ago
        Being opposed to one form of nationalism does not imply support for all other forms of nationalism.
- therobots927 10mo ago
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- ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
  Historically white supremacism has led to a LOT of deaths - not only the Nazi atrocities, but also all the lynchings performed by the KKK, the Tulsa race massacre etc. I don't agree with any kind of nationalism, but I also don't think that those other types of supremacism are anywhere near as dangerous.
  - youhatetheleft 10mo ago
    Look you shouldn’t have to justify why white supremacy is bad to some one. Do yourself a favour and avoid people and places where you find yourself having to do that regularly.
    - ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
      The nature of white supremacism is that it will spread until it finds you. A lot of people went to war and died because you can't just sit by and ignore it and there is no reasoning with it.
      - like_any_other 10mo ago
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        ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
        There's a world of difference between being against interracial marriage and wanting to commit genocide.
        like_any_other 10mo ago
        Okay. And what better describes a dating website for whites - attempted genocide, or being against interracial marriage?
        ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
carlotavez 10mo ago
Isn’t this illegal and a wrong thing to do. Just because you don’t agree with ideology, you can’t just go ahead and destroy actual IP . I’d think if the sites are based in the US and the owners decided to take action, they could force this activist to be extradited and face punishment.
- undeveloper 10mo ago
  Illegal? Probably. Wrong or immoral? lol no
- tomlockwood 10mo ago
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    - throw-12-16 10mo ago
      White supremacy leads directly into war. It's happened several times over the last 2 centuries and its looking like it will happen again soon. You should read about Neville Chamberlain and his experience trying to open a dialogue with these people.
      - applicatio 10mo ago
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        saubeidl 10mo ago
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avadodin 10mo ago
you go, girl!
oriettaxx 10mo ago
soooo good!
mPogrzeb 10mo ago
Fantastic.
anthk 10mo ago
To us Europeans White supremacists are like AlQaeda/Isis supporters in the middle of US declaring a legal right to fund a party which supports nuking Wall Street and Silicon Valley because they are 'inferior infidels'. Interrupting communications it's a serious crime in Europe too, with either high fines or straight prison time, but ethically I feel nothing for the webmaster. The same if someone deleted the social network profiles (and the whole infra) of narco armies in Mexico.
- tavavex 10mo ago
  Honestly, to me the only thing that differentiates Western white supremacists and similar fascist-adjacent groups from Middle Eastern extreme fundamentalists is that the latter had enough power to exercise total control over entire nations, shaping them to their whims. But this is just an outcome of circumstance, if the far-rightists are allowed to reshape a country to their liking (which we are increasingly allowing to happen) the results wouldn't be so different. I'm definitely curious why so many people simultaneously hold the viewpoints where the second group has it coming for them and rightfully deserve to be bulldozed out of existence, but the first should be treated with understanding and compassion.
  - anthk 10mo ago
    The first years of Francoism Spain were just the Catholic Sharia but with the Bible. Even under Democracy women weren't allowed to open a bank account until 1978 (3 years after Franco's death). Have you ever been curious about what the life could been under MAGA's with the Christianism raised with full powers? Read about the first years of that regime, from 1939 to 1953. Replace Catholicism with Evangelism or any major American Christian branch and that's pretty much the same. Oh, and the economic collapse. That would be a thing, too. When the scientists are fed with bullshit and flee away your whole economy collapses.
    - JohnFen 10mo ago
      > Even under Democracy women weren't allowed to open a bank account until 1978 (3 years after Franco's death). It wasn't many years earlier than that when the same thing was generally true in the US as well. My mother had a few horror stories about that. That is one of many travesties that were part of the time that MAGA wants to roll the US back to.
ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
> “Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,” Root wrote. It's ironic that supremacists tend to be the worst examples of humanity.
- water-data-dude 10mo ago
  I think most of them suffer from deeply rooted insecurity. Like, consider: you're BAD at stuff. You know, in your heart of hearts, that you're the bottom of the barrel. You can accept that, or you can get swept up into an ideology that says "the subgroup I'm in is better than all the other subgroups", and then, WOW! You're automatically better than most other people without having to do anything!
  - ceejayoz 10mo ago
    Some folks are looking for anything to be proud of, and skin color's about it.
  - al_borland 10mo ago
    There was a TED Talk some years back from a guy who was part of it, talking about how he ended up in it and got out. He was a lost kid who didn’t know where his life was going, and someone took advantage of that and gave him a place to belong. It doesn’t sound much different than the playbook of most cults and even many religions. https://www.ted.com/talks/christian_picciolini_my_descent_into_america_s_neo_nazi_movement_and_how_i_got_out https://www.ted.com/talks/christian_picciolini_my_descent_in...
- tavavex 10mo ago
  It's also terrifying. Look at the average competence their group displays on a daily basis, and now consider how far they've been able to get just with this level of knowledge and curiosity. Far-rightists rule the world and are continuing to become ever more powerful. Now imagine what happens if among their masses appears an actually scarily intelligent figure. If they're already able to exert so much power, that intelligent figure would probably be able to make us all suffer for the rest of our lives.
cmxch 10mo ago
Time for a good, throw the entire law library at them prosecution. You don’t get exemption from the law because people like your targets. Maybe put a bounty for their prosecution and conviction.
- asacrowflies 10mo ago
  Why? Lol

78 points by ryandrake 10mo ago

like_any_other 10mo ago

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elektrontamer 10mo ago
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- youhatetheleft 10mo ago
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      - tavavex 10mo ago
        > gaslight every one about how important winning the Ukraine war was for global stability and the rules based international order For someone who used the preceding paragraph to position themselves against imperialism and authoritarian regimes, that is a very strange statement to make. Ukraine was the one responsible for ringing the alarm bells. If the US deemed Ukraine's total military victory as being beneficial to them, they could've made that happen single-handedly and in very short order, no "gaslighting" required. Instead they chose the endless war-of-attrition + appeasement approach and sent some aid while posturing and making promises. They were terrified of "escalation" and ended up not doing anything. The countries that cared about the war didn't have a lot to send, and the countries that had a lot to send didn't care about the war that much. Now the side that's not scared of escalation is using all that military might to airlift heads of state of sovereign nations. > just to stick their thumbs up their asses when their dictator pulls shit like this is beyond me Is that Biden admin in the room with us right now? The Americans gave the current administration a blank cheque to do anything they want, the not-far-right party's federal role right now had been reduced to looking angry/concerned in hopes that maybe a future election could let them have some power. Unless you seriously expected Biden et al. to storm the White House and coup their current administration, they can't really do anything anymore - and every day, their odds get slimmer as the entire country is being reshaped around them.
        youhatetheleft 10mo ago
        First of all Biden is just as bad as Trump to me I’ll never forget Tony Blinken crying about kids dead in Ukraine then standing there stony faced saying there was no genocide in Gaza. The Democrats are just the friendly face of Imperalism, under Trump you get to see that same violence just this time it’s turned inwards as well. I hate both of those parties the world would be a better place if we got rid of both of them. Here is a fun folk song for you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA The Ukraine war is an imperialist war two competing bourgeoises one backed by the west the other backed by Russia are fighting over who can plunder Ukraine. There was no side worth supporting there. Also being afraid of escalation against a nuclear armed state is perfectly reasonable. A full out war with Russia that could go nuclear isn’t off the table. The western media likes to pretend their wars are about human rights and national sovereignty it’s not and the west couldn’t give a damn about either of those things, see Gaza and Venezuala. Venezuala wasn’t always as authoritarian as it became under Maduro it got worse and worse as the United States increased its efforts to topple the regime with sanctions and funding the opposition you know the normal regime change shit the United States pulls everywhere. I dont support Russia. lol the Biden admin shot its self in the foot so many times first by refusing to pick up the phone to stop a genocide then Biden chose to run even though he was way to old. Kamala also refused to say anything about Gaza it lost her the election. I worked for those assholes for free fuck them, and any one who still sits around defending the United States as if it’s some beacon of democracy is a joke. That shitty government has me on a watch list for the crime of calling out the band of criminals and fascists that run that country. The war could of been prevented Ukraine was offered a deal where they could of been neutral and kept their freedom Borris Johnson was sent my Victoria Neuland to scuttle that deal. Americans love war and they love boosting their military industrial complex just check how well their stocks have been doing recently. They were panicking when Afghanistan ended they needed a new conflict. Nobody in the US government gives a shit about the lives of the innocent civilians that they kill as long as it furthers their psychotic ends. I focus my ire on the United States mainly because they’re the country that is meant to hold up the international order, they’ve shown time and time again that they’ll ignore it.
        soldthat 10mo ago
    - krapp 10mo ago
      Being opposed to one form of nationalism does not imply support for all other forms of nationalism.
therobots927 10mo ago
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ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
Historically white supremacism has led to a LOT of deaths - not only the Nazi atrocities, but also all the lynchings performed by the KKK, the Tulsa race massacre etc. I don't agree with any kind of nationalism, but I also don't think that those other types of supremacism are anywhere near as dangerous.
- youhatetheleft 10mo ago
  Look you shouldn’t have to justify why white supremacy is bad to some one. Do yourself a favour and avoid people and places where you find yourself having to do that regularly.
  - ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
    The nature of white supremacism is that it will spread until it finds you. A lot of people went to war and died because you can't just sit by and ignore it and there is no reasoning with it.
    - like_any_other 10mo ago
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      - ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago
        There's a world of difference between being against interracial marriage and wanting to commit genocide.
        like_any_other 10mo ago
        Okay. And what better describes a dating website for whites - attempted genocide, or being against interracial marriage?
        ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago

carlotavez 10mo ago

Isn’t this illegal and a wrong thing to do. Just because you don’t agree with ideology, you can’t just go ahead and destroy actual IP . I’d think if the sites are based in the US and the owners decided to take action, they could force this activist to be extradited and face punishment.

undeveloper 10mo ago
Illegal? Probably. Wrong or immoral? lol no
tomlockwood 10mo ago
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- applicatio 10mo ago
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  - throw-12-16 10mo ago
    White supremacy leads directly into war. It's happened several times over the last 2 centuries and its looking like it will happen again soon. You should read about Neville Chamberlain and his experience trying to open a dialogue with these people.
    - applicatio 10mo ago
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      - saubeidl 10mo ago
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        applicatio 10mo ago
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avadodin 10mo ago

you go, girl!

oriettaxx 10mo ago

soooo good!

mPogrzeb 10mo ago

Fantastic.

anthk 10mo ago

To us Europeans White supremacists are like AlQaeda/Isis supporters in the middle of US declaring a legal right to fund a party which supports nuking Wall Street and Silicon Valley because they are 'inferior infidels'. Interrupting communications it's a serious crime in Europe too, with either high fines or straight prison time, but ethically I feel nothing for the webmaster. The same if someone deleted the social network profiles (and the whole infra) of narco armies in Mexico.

tavavex 10mo ago
Honestly, to me the only thing that differentiates Western white supremacists and similar fascist-adjacent groups from Middle Eastern extreme fundamentalists is that the latter had enough power to exercise total control over entire nations, shaping them to their whims. But this is just an outcome of circumstance, if the far-rightists are allowed to reshape a country to their liking (which we are increasingly allowing to happen) the results wouldn't be so different. I'm definitely curious why so many people simultaneously hold the viewpoints where the second group has it coming for them and rightfully deserve to be bulldozed out of existence, but the first should be treated with understanding and compassion.
- anthk 10mo ago
  The first years of Francoism Spain were just the Catholic Sharia but with the Bible. Even under Democracy women weren't allowed to open a bank account until 1978 (3 years after Franco's death). Have you ever been curious about what the life could been under MAGA's with the Christianism raised with full powers? Read about the first years of that regime, from 1939 to 1953. Replace Catholicism with Evangelism or any major American Christian branch and that's pretty much the same. Oh, and the economic collapse. That would be a thing, too. When the scientists are fed with bullshit and flee away your whole economy collapses.
  - JohnFen 10mo ago
    > Even under Democracy women weren't allowed to open a bank account until 1978 (3 years after Franco's death). It wasn't many years earlier than that when the same thing was generally true in the US as well. My mother had a few horror stories about that. That is one of many travesties that were part of the time that MAGA wants to roll the US back to.

ndsipa_pomu 10mo ago

> “Imagine calling yourselves the ‘master race’ but forgetting to secure your own website — maybe try mastering to host WordPress before world domination,” Root wrote. It's ironic that supremacists tend to be the worst examples of humanity.

water-data-dude 10mo ago
I think most of them suffer from deeply rooted insecurity. Like, consider: you're BAD at stuff. You know, in your heart of hearts, that you're the bottom of the barrel. You can accept that, or you can get swept up into an ideology that says "the subgroup I'm in is better than all the other subgroups", and then, WOW! You're automatically better than most other people without having to do anything!
- ceejayoz 10mo ago
  Some folks are looking for anything to be proud of, and skin color's about it.
- al_borland 10mo ago
  There was a TED Talk some years back from a guy who was part of it, talking about how he ended up in it and got out. He was a lost kid who didn’t know where his life was going, and someone took advantage of that and gave him a place to belong. It doesn’t sound much different than the playbook of most cults and even many religions. https://www.ted.com/talks/christian_picciolini_my_descent_into_america_s_neo_nazi_movement_and_how_i_got_out https://www.ted.com/talks/christian_picciolini_my_descent_in...
tavavex 10mo ago
It's also terrifying. Look at the average competence their group displays on a daily basis, and now consider how far they've been able to get just with this level of knowledge and curiosity. Far-rightists rule the world and are continuing to become ever more powerful. Now imagine what happens if among their masses appears an actually scarily intelligent figure. If they're already able to exert so much power, that intelligent figure would probably be able to make us all suffer for the rest of our lives.

cmxch 10mo ago

Time for a good, throw the entire law library at them prosecution. You don’t get exemption from the law because people like your targets. Maybe put a bounty for their prosecution and conviction.

asacrowflies 10mo ago
Why? Lol