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I don't like it, but the solution here is to hire an IP lawyer to handle the rights process. Google won't talk to us normies because 1) it's a cost and they do

I don't like it, but the solution here is to hire an IP lawyer to handle the rights process. Google won't talk to us normies because 1) it's a cost and they don't have to 2) they've convinced themselves that if they tell anyone anything, then the unwashed masses will take advantage of their process/get the service we're owed under law

worik 10mo ago
> Google won't talk to us normies because They really should.... > ... it's a cost and they don't have to There are much bigger costs looming for Google if they continue to ignore DMCA Google are in the hands of the Money Monkeys. Short term gain and get out before the pain. What a shame.
- bitfilped 10mo ago
  I mean I don't disagree but "should" won't make next quarters line go up until it becomes an expensive enough problem to threaten that trend.
- SR2Z 10mo ago
  Google settled a massive lawsuit with Viacom many years ago. The details of the settlement are hidden, but it seems pretty clear that it involves extraordinary deference to large rightsholders who in exchange won't threaten to blow YouTube to smithereens every year.
breppp 10mo ago
or because of abuse https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47227937 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47227937
- heavyset_go 10mo ago
  Sounds like they need to spend some of those billions of dollars on fixing the process and complying with the law, then. I don't get to ignore the law just because if I follow it, someone who doesn't might get one over on me. All of this nonsense because Google wants to automate their DMCA takedown process and not hire anyone to deal with real cases as they come, as is their duty to copyright holders.
  - breppp 10mo ago
    I have a different reading, the author is reminiscing to the times where trust worked on the web. A company like Google could trust you for being really the author because who would lie? and those that lie about these things usually couldn't spell or use technology. The world changed and now Google can't afford to trust someone that says he's the author, because people take advantage of that. So if you ask me what's worse, this guy having to contact his publisher to get his book off the web, or someone being blackmailed to keep his youtube channel, imo they are right to require a proper lawyer

worik 10mo ago

> Google won't talk to us normies because They really should.... > ... it's a cost and they don't have to There are much bigger costs looming for Google if they continue to ignore DMCA Google are in the hands of the Money Monkeys. Short term gain and get out before the pain. What a shame.

bitfilped 10mo ago
I mean I don't disagree but "should" won't make next quarters line go up until it becomes an expensive enough problem to threaten that trend.
SR2Z 10mo ago
Google settled a massive lawsuit with Viacom many years ago. The details of the settlement are hidden, but it seems pretty clear that it involves extraordinary deference to large rightsholders who in exchange won't threaten to blow YouTube to smithereens every year.

breppp 10mo ago

or because of abuse https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47227937 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47227937

heavyset_go 10mo ago
Sounds like they need to spend some of those billions of dollars on fixing the process and complying with the law, then. I don't get to ignore the law just because if I follow it, someone who doesn't might get one over on me. All of this nonsense because Google wants to automate their DMCA takedown process and not hire anyone to deal with real cases as they come, as is their duty to copyright holders.
- breppp 10mo ago
  I have a different reading, the author is reminiscing to the times where trust worked on the web. A company like Google could trust you for being really the author because who would lie? and those that lie about these things usually couldn't spell or use technology. The world changed and now Google can't afford to trust someone that says he's the author, because people take advantage of that. So if you ask me what's worse, this guy having to contact his publisher to get his book off the web, or someone being blackmailed to keep his youtube channel, imo they are right to require a proper lawyer