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> Or does it still replace them with ads for scanmy cryptocurrency? Brave never did that. Brave blocks third-party ads & trackers by default. (disclaimer: I

by skaul 9mo ago

> Or does it still replace them with ads for scanmy cryptocurrency? Brave never did that. Brave blocks third-party ads & trackers by default. (disclaimer: I lead privacy and adblocking at Brave)

weedhopper 9mo ago
lead what? https://archive.is/W0k4j https://archive.is/W0k4j (disclaimer: people remember how sketchy Brave is)
- someotherperson 9mo ago
  That was just a concept, it never made it to a live build AFAIK. What they should have done instead is just take hundreds of millions of dollars from Google, like a non-sketchy browser.
- fenwick67 9mo ago
  Don't forget when they took donations on behalf of other websites and kept the money unless the operator went to the "escrow account" to collect it
  - ikekkdcjkfke 9mo ago
    Jesus dont you see they are trying atleast an alternative to non consensual anal probes by other ad companies?
  - BrendanEich 9mo ago
    The grants came from our token fund, not users' tokens (no way to buy BAT then). The issue which I found out about late, and fixed right away, was infringing on right to publicity, nothing to do with donations from users' own tokens.
- bsclifton 9mo ago
  Already shared, but that (what you linked to) was a proposal and no deliverable was ever publicly released. A simple prototype was made and tested by a limited number of employees - instead of showing an ad, it would show a picture of a mustachioed man as a placeholder. That silly picture would be replaced with real code if the idea panned out. It didn't. The idea and the code was canned before I joined Brave and I've been here for almost 10 years (I joined August 2016). Disclaimer in case it's not obvious: I am a Brave employee
VladVladikoff 9mo ago
I definitely tried out brave several years ago and legit got lots of crypto ads. I really don’t know how you are getting upvoted for lying about this.
- jamesnorden 9mo ago
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  - VladVladikoff 9mo ago
    Wild accusations considering this stuff still exists online as direct evidence: https://brave.com/blog/binance/ https://brave.com/blog/binance/ Also attacking the person instead of the ideas is really not in the spirit of HN.
    - BrendanEich 9mo ago
      That blog post is about a partnership (which ended), but you probably saw some sponsored images at the time, in new tab pages (1 of 4 then, I think; the rest are just art images). These are non-tracking, carefully designed (including vetting by Brave), brand advertising images. They are not ads (we never did this) inserted into publisher pages, or (opt-in only) push notifications. Brave has been working to find ways to sustain ourselves, and these sponsored images are still a good revenue line, although lesser now vs other lines. If you want, turn them off. Free riding is always an user right, we don't try to stop it on principle, as if we ever could with open source. But there's no free lunch: if you use Firefox, you are Google's product. If you use a Firefox fork, you're free riding on Gecko which costs a lot to maintain. HTH
      - VladVladikoff 9mo ago
        “Sponsored images” What exactly do you think an advertisement is?

by skaul 9mo ago

> Or does it still replace them with ads for scanmy cryptocurrency? Brave never did that. Brave blocks third-party ads & trackers by default. (disclaimer: I lead privacy and adblocking at Brave)

weedhopper 9mo ago

lead what? https://archive.is/W0k4j https://archive.is/W0k4j (disclaimer: people remember how sketchy Brave is)

someotherperson 9mo ago
That was just a concept, it never made it to a live build AFAIK. What they should have done instead is just take hundreds of millions of dollars from Google, like a non-sketchy browser.
fenwick67 9mo ago
Don't forget when they took donations on behalf of other websites and kept the money unless the operator went to the "escrow account" to collect it
- ikekkdcjkfke 9mo ago
  Jesus dont you see they are trying atleast an alternative to non consensual anal probes by other ad companies?
- BrendanEich 9mo ago
  The grants came from our token fund, not users' tokens (no way to buy BAT then). The issue which I found out about late, and fixed right away, was infringing on right to publicity, nothing to do with donations from users' own tokens.
bsclifton 9mo ago
Already shared, but that (what you linked to) was a proposal and no deliverable was ever publicly released. A simple prototype was made and tested by a limited number of employees - instead of showing an ad, it would show a picture of a mustachioed man as a placeholder. That silly picture would be replaced with real code if the idea panned out. It didn't. The idea and the code was canned before I joined Brave and I've been here for almost 10 years (I joined August 2016). Disclaimer in case it's not obvious: I am a Brave employee

VladVladikoff 9mo ago

I definitely tried out brave several years ago and legit got lots of crypto ads. I really don’t know how you are getting upvoted for lying about this.

jamesnorden 9mo ago
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- VladVladikoff 9mo ago
  Wild accusations considering this stuff still exists online as direct evidence: https://brave.com/blog/binance/ https://brave.com/blog/binance/ Also attacking the person instead of the ideas is really not in the spirit of HN.
  - BrendanEich 9mo ago
    That blog post is about a partnership (which ended), but you probably saw some sponsored images at the time, in new tab pages (1 of 4 then, I think; the rest are just art images). These are non-tracking, carefully designed (including vetting by Brave), brand advertising images. They are not ads (we never did this) inserted into publisher pages, or (opt-in only) push notifications. Brave has been working to find ways to sustain ourselves, and these sponsored images are still a good revenue line, although lesser now vs other lines. If you want, turn them off. Free riding is always an user right, we don't try to stop it on principle, as if we ever could with open source. But there's no free lunch: if you use Firefox, you are Google's product. If you use a Firefox fork, you're free riding on Gecko which costs a lot to maintain. HTH
    - VladVladikoff 9mo ago
      “Sponsored images” What exactly do you think an advertisement is?