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What would happen if someone used photoshop to create CSAM? Should Adobe be held responsible because they didn't prevent it? Grok is just another tool, and IMO
by schnebbau 9mo ago
What would happen if someone used photoshop to create CSAM? Should Adobe be held responsible because they didn't prevent it?
Grok is just another tool, and IMO it shouldn't have guard rails. The user is responsible for their prompts and what they create with it.
- jeffwask 9mo agoSomeone spending 40 hours drawing a nude is not equivalent to someone saying take this photo and make them naked and having a naked photo in 4 seconds. Only one of these is easily preventable with guardrails.
- schnebbau 9mo ago[flagged]
- jeffwask 9mo agoNo, silly billy but the responsibility for when your SAAS platform is generating it falls on you as a developer. The user in not creating it you are based on a prompt you could easily say no to.
- theLegionWithin 9mo agobet I can guess which of those two is more profitable
- MallocVoidstar 9mo ago> Grok is just another tool, and IMO it shouldn't have guard rails. How is the world improved by an AI tool that will generate sexual deepfake images of children?
- deleted 9mo ago[deleted]
- SirMaster 9mo ago[flagged]
- ryandrake 9mo agoIs Grok simply a tool, or is it itself an agent of the creative process? If I told an art intern to create CSAM, he does, and then I publish it, who's culpable? Me? The intern? Both of us? I don't expect you to answer the question--it's not going to be a simple answer, and it's probably going to involve the courts very soon.
- roywiggins 9mo ago"if I hired a hitman to kill someone, he does, who's culpable? Me? The hitman? Both?" It's both. Very simple. You can't get around liability by forming a conspiracy [0]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_conspiracy
- llmslave2 9mo agoRight, but the makers of the murder weapon aren't culpable. Or do you think a Microsoft exec should go to jail every time someone uses it to write a death threat?
- deleted 9mo ago[deleted]
- roywiggins 9mo agoThe hypothetical imagined hiring an intern to do a crime and supposed that this might make liability harder to determine. It doesn't!
- llmslave2 9mo agoAn intern is a human, unlike Microsoft Word or an LLM, which are tools/machines/etc.
- roywiggins 9mo agoAutomated DDOS-for-hire services are not legal either. They're tools/machines/etc, possibly running more or less autonomously. https://www.justice.gov/usao-ak/pr/federal-prosecutors-alaska-and-los-angeles-charge-6-defendants-operating-websites-offered https://www.justice.gov/usao-ak/pr/federal-prosecutors-alask...
- mikeocool 9mo agoDon't know about CSAM, but photoshop won't open an image that shows more than 25% of a dollar bill to prevent counterfeiting.