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okay. and? tilt at this windmill all you like, but the genie is out of the bottle and there's nothing you can do about it but kvetch. you can't ban it, you can

by Alex2037 9mo ago

okay. and? tilt at this windmill all you like, but the genie is out of the bottle and there's nothing you can do about it but kvetch. you can't ban it, you can't regulate it, no more than the US government could rein in cryptography.

YurgenJurgensen 9mo ago
None of these companies are making money, so all we need to do is wait until the VC money runs out and it turns out there’s no market for any of this slop if the people creating it have to actually pay for it.
unethical_ban 9mo ago
Did cryptography or Toy story 3D animation make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no matter how realistic? Did cryptography make me have to train my parents not to trust my own voice if I make strange asks like money? There is a lot more to do for each other as a society to adjust to the new normal of AI, than just complain. Awareness and realignment are critical.
- Alex2037 9mo ago
  >cryptography cryptography enables spies, terrorists, criminals, and dissidents to communicate over any network with absolute impunity. if it was feasible, every government in the world would have banned or "regulated" it, as some had attempted to. but in the end, they had conceded defeat, and the world had not ended. >make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no matter how realistic? you left out "images", which we learned to question decades ago. likewise, audio and video could also be manipulated with readily available, completely unregulated tools, to produce quite believable results.
  - unethical_ban 9mo ago
    I disagree with your final assertion. Completely or nearly-completely undetectable reproductions of reality, and specific human voices with intonation and generative vocabulary, have not been widely available before now to anyone with the will.

YurgenJurgensen 9mo ago

None of these companies are making money, so all we need to do is wait until the VC money runs out and it turns out there’s no market for any of this slop if the people creating it have to actually pay for it.

unethical_ban 9mo ago

Did cryptography or Toy story 3D animation make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no matter how realistic? Did cryptography make me have to train my parents not to trust my own voice if I make strange asks like money? There is a lot more to do for each other as a society to adjust to the new normal of AI, than just complain. Awareness and realignment are critical.

Alex2037 9mo ago
>cryptography cryptography enables spies, terrorists, criminals, and dissidents to communicate over any network with absolute impunity. if it was feasible, every government in the world would have banned or "regulated" it, as some had attempted to. but in the end, they had conceded defeat, and the world had not ended. >make every human need to question the reality of any electronic audio or video they encounter, no matter how realistic? you left out "images", which we learned to question decades ago. likewise, audio and video could also be manipulated with readily available, completely unregulated tools, to produce quite believable results.
- unethical_ban 9mo ago
  I disagree with your final assertion. Completely or nearly-completely undetectable reproductions of reality, and specific human voices with intonation and generative vocabulary, have not been widely available before now to anyone with the will.