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Yeah I’m saying drop the concern for another country conquering the supply chain. Let China dominate. Europe is unconcerned. And they benefit from that. I mean

Yeah I’m saying drop the concern for another country conquering the supply chain. Let China dominate. Europe is unconcerned. And they benefit from that. I mean real benefits like work life balance not benefits like talking points about which country has the bigger dick. Do you really want America to be number 1 while you’re slaving away at your job 996 in pollution infested cities?

Imustaskforhelp 10mo ago
I agree with what you are saying about Europe being better in work life balances etc. in my person opinion as well and I admit it so I am just going to write a message about the things I have been seen written by Americans in the first place/gist of them for the sake of providing a (full picture?) I wouldn't say Europe is unconcerned either. Europe has less issues than America because its collective debt feels very low compared to America France recently went into all out stalemate of sorts and in countries like UK as well there are some really systemetic issues and not vice versa Namely the most heard is the lack of innovation. People (here on HN) have compared Europe to a colloseum, saying its stuck in time and that there is a lack of innovation. The startup culture is disfragmented etc. There are some real concerns about Europe as well being impacted because a huge chunk of jobs were in the manufacturing business (think cars) and with things like BYD etc., Europeans themselves are worried about being able to compete with their price. the point being that Europe has some concerns as well and they stem from their decision. The regulations make businesses genuinely hard to start. (Note that I still believe that Europe is really good compared to America in a lot of genuine metrics in my opinion as well but then again, its not really a fair discussion if we don't discuss both sides of the coin)
- threethirtytwo 10mo ago
  If the metric is happiness, Europe wins. It’s hard to measure this directly but there quantitative metrics that correlate. Suicide rates for example, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heart-medicine-for-a-changing-world/202311/the-discrepancy-between-american-and-european https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heart-medicine-for-a...
AlexandrB 10mo ago
Do you think Europe will be able to benefit from this forever if current trends[1] continue? I'm not so sure. [1] https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-increased-in-the-past-decade https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-...

Imustaskforhelp 10mo ago

I agree with what you are saying about Europe being better in work life balances etc. in my person opinion as well and I admit it so I am just going to write a message about the things I have been seen written by Americans in the first place/gist of them for the sake of providing a (full picture?) I wouldn't say Europe is unconcerned either. Europe has less issues than America because its collective debt feels very low compared to America France recently went into all out stalemate of sorts and in countries like UK as well there are some really systemetic issues and not vice versa Namely the most heard is the lack of innovation. People (here on HN) have compared Europe to a colloseum, saying its stuck in time and that there is a lack of innovation. The startup culture is disfragmented etc. There are some real concerns about Europe as well being impacted because a huge chunk of jobs were in the manufacturing business (think cars) and with things like BYD etc., Europeans themselves are worried about being able to compete with their price. the point being that Europe has some concerns as well and they stem from their decision. The regulations make businesses genuinely hard to start. (Note that I still believe that Europe is really good compared to America in a lot of genuine metrics in my opinion as well but then again, its not really a fair discussion if we don't discuss both sides of the coin)

threethirtytwo 10mo ago
If the metric is happiness, Europe wins. It’s hard to measure this directly but there quantitative metrics that correlate. Suicide rates for example, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heart-medicine-for-a-changing-world/202311/the-discrepancy-between-american-and-european https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heart-medicine-for-a...

AlexandrB 10mo ago

Do you think Europe will be able to benefit from this forever if current trends[1] continue? I'm not so sure. [1] https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-gap-between-europe-and-the-united-states-increased-in-the-past-decade https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-has-the-economic-...