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"There are people who care about the UI. I can’t do UI to save my life. I mean, if I was stranded on an island and the only way to get off that island was to ma
by chistev 10mo ago
"There are people who care about the UI. I can’t do UI to save my life. I mean, if I was stranded on an island and the only way to get off that island was to make a pretty UI, I’d die there."
- Linus Torvalds.
Source of the quote above -
https://youtu.be/o8NPllzkFhE?si=8vIMSR9qjVuFlvtt https://youtu.be/o8NPllzkFhE?si=8vIMSR9qjVuFlvtt
If you don't want to watch the whole video, here's the exact part about the UI -
https://youtu.be/u4cI71pnFUc?si=DZqOaj6SE9yIh7Re https://youtu.be/u4cI71pnFUc?si=DZqOaj6SE9yIh7Re
Transcript -
https://terence-xie.medium.com/linus-torvalds-the-mind-behind-linux-4d995b8f3ee9 https://terence-xie.medium.com/linus-torvalds-the-mind-behin...
- ecb_penguin 10mo agoThis is a different problem and disciplin. I'm not an artist. I can't design anything pretty. But I can learn a programming language (or CSS) well enough that I can replicate something an artist designs. We have an entire design org that produces pretty UIs. FE developers are then expected to know the CSS rules to build that design. The very first thing I teach new FE developers is how to build from Figma designs.
- OkayPhysicist 10mo agoIMO, this particular division of labor (design/specification) introduces a rather unacceptable level of friction. It is a feature, not a bug, that when the design and specification work is being done by the same person, the designs tend to be ones that are relatively straightforward to specify. It makes it a conscious choice to budget more specification effort towards elments that are more important to the designer.
- ecb_penguin 10mo ago[flagged]
- pkoird 10mo ago*Linus
- chistev 10mo agoSorry, you're right. I've edited it.
- francisofascii 10mo agoBack in the "golden age" of Web my development career, circa 2008, before "full-stack" and before SPAs, we were fortunate to have people that specialized in UX and CSS. They understood fonts, colors, spacing, browser quirks, and they understood CSS. They have their own conferences and bloggers that they followed. (Eric Meyer) They were technical enough to deal with a Git repo and commit css and image files. The back-end / "CS major" types could simply focus on the CRUD part of the application and didn't have to care about UI or CSS.
- dustingetz 10mo agoskill issue
- spiderfarmer 10mo agoYes. It’s like people who say they can’t cook. They just don’t want to. Anyone should be able to follow a recipe. And UI design generally follows recipes. Because UI’s simply suck when they don’t follow conventions.
- littlestymaar 10mo agoThat's an interesting analogy. I can't make proper UI but I can cook fine so maybe I should learn more about UI. Any good source of design recipe to share?
- satvikpendem 10mo agoRefactoring UI is a well known book for learning about design as a developer [0]. It's co-written by Adam Wathan of Tailwind even before he made Tailwind. Steve Schoger, the other author, refactors UIs on YouTube [1] which you can take a look at too, lots of good tips there and he talks through each one and visually shows you what changes and why. [0] https://www.refactoringui.com/ https://www.refactoringui.com/ [1] https://www.youtube.com/steveschoger https://www.youtube.com/steveschoger
- spiderfarmer 10mo agoThis would be my exact recommendation.
- littlestymaar 10mo agoThanks, I'll give it a look.
- chistev 10mo agoI think the guy you responded to was making a joke. "skill issue" for Linus Torvalds.
- janez2 10mo agoyour youtube links have tracking ?si parameters in them
- chistev 10mo agoI just opened my YouTube app, searched the videos and copied the links. I don't know anything about tracking.
- MarsIronPI 10mo agoAh, I always figured those were tracking. Glad to see my suspicions confirmed.
- socalgal2 10mo agoSome "pros" can't do it either, see MacOS Tahoe