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I agree, Liquid (Gl)ass is hideous. I'll stick to macOS Sequoia for the time being.

by reddalo 9mo ago

codyb 9mo ago
MacOS 26 highlights were... and this was _Apple's_ opening modal... "Icons that look like shit!" and "Notification summaries that may not be correct!" In general I feel as if Apple's software feels buggier and less solid lately across my iPhone and my computers. Won't be upgrading the personal computer for as long as possible
- euroderf 9mo ago
  > Apple's software feels buggier and less solid lately across my iPhone and my computers. Agreed. Rendering is very flaky. Input events are dropped. Blinky. Laggy. Two of the Seven Dwarves of Liquid Glass.
  - shermantanktop 9mo ago
    Buggy, Flaky, Dropsy, Blinky, Laggy... that's five. How about Wobbly and Gloopy to round out the seven?
- Hamuko 9mo ago
  I got a new Apple Watch and just getting it set up was a pain. For some reason the passcode input would fail to register key prompts and I had to spam the buttons until something clicked. Then I gave my old Apple Watch to my mom and the setup failed like three times before we managed to get it done. Did make me wonder if anyone at Apple actually tests setting up these devices.
- bix6 9mo ago
  Apple has been crashing with increasing frequency for me. Luckily all minor but I’m waiting for the big crapout. Also what happened to their filters? I get daily spam from Apple email addresses now.
  - codyb 9mo ago
    What I love is how their own features don't even play well together anymore... For instance you can "hide your e-mail" by using Apple's relay, but if you do so... your payments using Apple Pay will fail unless you fill all the information in manually because the e-mail addresses don't match It's ridiculous how poorly tested everything is, and that combined with their newly entered foray into the world of politics has nearly destroyed three decades of steady Apple use for me. I'll be actively considering other options, not upgrading, and looking elsewhere for products in spaces they're in
- queenkjuul 9mo ago
  I finally talked my company into letting me swap out my MacBook pro for some little Dell. After the last year of updates, my Mac has stopped resuming from sleep reliably, everything is ugly, they took the already barely usable (imo) finder and system settings and found exciting new ways to make them worse. Sadly corporate security means os updates were not optional. I've never really liked macOS but it feels like someone at Apple was hired just to make it even less likable for me personally lol
  - abustamam 9mo ago
    Do you like Windows dark patterns more than Mac's shitty designs? Seems like no one wins here. I personally just refrained from upgrading to Tahoe Edit:typo
  - williamdclt 9mo ago
    > already barely usable (imo) finder been using a Mac for years, and to this day I don't know how it's possible to navigate directories using Finder. It only has shortcuts for a few folders by default (photos, documents...) and doesn't have a button to navigate to the parent folder. I have literally no idea how to get to my home directory, I need to use the CLI
    - massysett 9mo ago
      > doesn't have a button to navigate to the parent folder. Command + Up Arrow, which is also visible if you click on the "Go" menu. There is also a toolbar button that shows the entire set of enclosing directories; offhand I can't remember whether this is visible by default. There is also "View -> Show Path Bar" which shows all this information at the bottom of the window. > I have literally no idea how to get to my home directory Go -> Home, which shows a shortcut key for this, Command-Shift-H.
    - hnlmorg 9mo ago
      I’ve said many times before that I think Finder is the worst default file manager of any popular desktop environment. I get it’s supposed to be easy to use but so much functionality is hidden behind non-obvious shortcuts. The end result is you either need to memorise a dozen secret handshakes just to perform basic operations, or you give up and revert to 70s technology in the command line.
port11 9mo ago
Same. And finally thinking that our KDE home server doesn’t look too bad, it’s almost comforting. The major reason to stay on macOS is stability. Hopefully they stop breaking things on the Mac front.
pier25 9mo ago
Same. Wish I could go back to Ventura or even Mojave though. There are zero new features I use. Still hate the newish Settings app.
- reddalo 9mo ago
  Yeah, me too. The old Settings app was easy and intuitive; I hate the new one.
plutokras 9mo ago
I too have the techie urge to upgrade my software whenever I can, ut after watching the Tahoe demos, I'm staying on Sequoia indefinitely. I would really appreciate it if the next macOS would be about stability instead of some fancy features barely anyone asked for.

I agree, Liquid (Gl)ass is hideous. I'll stick to macOS Sequoia for the time being.

by reddalo 9mo ago

I agree, Liquid (Gl)ass is hideous. I'll stick to macOS Sequoia for the time being.

codyb 9mo ago

MacOS 26 highlights were... and this was _Apple's_ opening modal... "Icons that look like shit!" and "Notification summaries that may not be correct!" In general I feel as if Apple's software feels buggier and less solid lately across my iPhone and my computers. Won't be upgrading the personal computer for as long as possible

euroderf 9mo ago
> Apple's software feels buggier and less solid lately across my iPhone and my computers. Agreed. Rendering is very flaky. Input events are dropped. Blinky. Laggy. Two of the Seven Dwarves of Liquid Glass.
- shermantanktop 9mo ago
  Buggy, Flaky, Dropsy, Blinky, Laggy... that's five. How about Wobbly and Gloopy to round out the seven?
Hamuko 9mo ago
I got a new Apple Watch and just getting it set up was a pain. For some reason the passcode input would fail to register key prompts and I had to spam the buttons until something clicked. Then I gave my old Apple Watch to my mom and the setup failed like three times before we managed to get it done. Did make me wonder if anyone at Apple actually tests setting up these devices.
bix6 9mo ago
Apple has been crashing with increasing frequency for me. Luckily all minor but I’m waiting for the big crapout. Also what happened to their filters? I get daily spam from Apple email addresses now.
- codyb 9mo ago
  What I love is how their own features don't even play well together anymore... For instance you can "hide your e-mail" by using Apple's relay, but if you do so... your payments using Apple Pay will fail unless you fill all the information in manually because the e-mail addresses don't match It's ridiculous how poorly tested everything is, and that combined with their newly entered foray into the world of politics has nearly destroyed three decades of steady Apple use for me. I'll be actively considering other options, not upgrading, and looking elsewhere for products in spaces they're in
queenkjuul 9mo ago
I finally talked my company into letting me swap out my MacBook pro for some little Dell. After the last year of updates, my Mac has stopped resuming from sleep reliably, everything is ugly, they took the already barely usable (imo) finder and system settings and found exciting new ways to make them worse. Sadly corporate security means os updates were not optional. I've never really liked macOS but it feels like someone at Apple was hired just to make it even less likable for me personally lol
- abustamam 9mo ago
  Do you like Windows dark patterns more than Mac's shitty designs? Seems like no one wins here. I personally just refrained from upgrading to Tahoe Edit:typo
- williamdclt 9mo ago
  > already barely usable (imo) finder been using a Mac for years, and to this day I don't know how it's possible to navigate directories using Finder. It only has shortcuts for a few folders by default (photos, documents...) and doesn't have a button to navigate to the parent folder. I have literally no idea how to get to my home directory, I need to use the CLI
  - massysett 9mo ago
    > doesn't have a button to navigate to the parent folder. Command + Up Arrow, which is also visible if you click on the "Go" menu. There is also a toolbar button that shows the entire set of enclosing directories; offhand I can't remember whether this is visible by default. There is also "View -> Show Path Bar" which shows all this information at the bottom of the window. > I have literally no idea how to get to my home directory Go -> Home, which shows a shortcut key for this, Command-Shift-H.
  - hnlmorg 9mo ago
    I’ve said many times before that I think Finder is the worst default file manager of any popular desktop environment. I get it’s supposed to be easy to use but so much functionality is hidden behind non-obvious shortcuts. The end result is you either need to memorise a dozen secret handshakes just to perform basic operations, or you give up and revert to 70s technology in the command line.

port11 9mo ago

Same. And finally thinking that our KDE home server doesn’t look too bad, it’s almost comforting. The major reason to stay on macOS is stability. Hopefully they stop breaking things on the Mac front.

pier25 9mo ago

Same. Wish I could go back to Ventura or even Mojave though. There are zero new features I use. Still hate the newish Settings app.

reddalo 9mo ago
Yeah, me too. The old Settings app was easy and intuitive; I hate the new one.

plutokras 9mo ago

I too have the techie urge to upgrade my software whenever I can, ut after watching the Tahoe demos, I'm staying on Sequoia indefinitely. I would really appreciate it if the next macOS would be about stability instead of some fancy features barely anyone asked for.