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yeah no shit, this is what happens when you agitate the major music record labels - it's going to get worse

by Ycros 9mo ago

xandrius 9mo ago
Yep, let's accept the monstrous industries which lock down culture for money. I for one support their efforts. The same way we store seeds in vaults deep in the depths of the earth, we should do this for digital content too, and without retaliation from any specific industry.
- alex1138 9mo ago
  Agree with you and I'd also like to see more abuse by said companies punished They went after Pirate Bay by literally threatening trade war repercussions with Sweden which is far more destructive than any files downloaded
- hirako2000 9mo ago
  What would be better is solve the root problem. These (illegal, somewhat legitimate) hoarding sites are most valuable for research literature which, given the public funding nature of these things should not be gated to begin with. The comsequence of resolving the symptoms is that illegitimate use piggy back on it. Artistic literature that would legitimately deserve protection get hoarded as well. Sweating authors of clearly copyrightable arts, typically novels, manuals, are seeing their work accessed free of royalties. For the sake of freely distributing scientific literature. It makes it impossible to make then distinction given the legitimate utility is operating in a dark domain.
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- fragmede 9mo ago
  GitHub did it for source code. https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/ https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/
- Ycros 9mo ago
  Yes, we should archive everything. And we should perhaps reform IP more broadly and re-think how we treat our culture. And we shouldn't expect retaliation. But retaliation will happen, and I worry that it's going to pull down one of the most incredible archives along with it.
  - squigz 9mo ago
    TPB is still up, 20+ years later, despite plenty of attention from similar groups.
hirako2000 9mo ago
In that case it would be Elsevier and co.
- jsheard 9mo ago
  Anna's Archive recently released a dump of the entire Spotify catalogue so they are very much in the music industries crosshairs as well now.
  - layer8 9mo ago
    Only metadata has been released so far.
    - rswail 9mo ago
      A lot of which was contributed by users typing in CD play lists to CDDB which got corporatised by GraceNote and ended up somewhere in Sony land. So this effectively re-releases into the public domain a lot of the user contributions during the 1990s.
- hermanzegerman 9mo ago
  They only distribute outdated SciHub Records
  - flexagoon 9mo ago
    That's not true. Anna's Archive gets new paper uploads from Z-Lib and LibGen as well. It's much more up to date than SciHub.
    - hermanzegerman 9mo ago
      Then I need to try it again. I've found it pretty useless compared to NexusSTC for recent papers
      - 9mo ago
RCitronsBroker 9mo ago
also have the feeling that going for music is going to turn out badly

yeah no shit, this is what happens when you agitate the major music record labels - it's going to get worse

by Ycros 9mo ago

yeah no shit, this is what happens when you agitate the major music record labels - it's going to get worse

Yep, let's accept the monstrous industries which lock down culture for money. I for one support their efforts. The same way we store seeds in vaults deep in the depths of the earth, we should do this for digital content too, and without retaliation from any specific industry.

alex1138 9mo ago
Agree with you and I'd also like to see more abuse by said companies punished They went after Pirate Bay by literally threatening trade war repercussions with Sweden which is far more destructive than any files downloaded
hirako2000 9mo ago
What would be better is solve the root problem. These (illegal, somewhat legitimate) hoarding sites are most valuable for research literature which, given the public funding nature of these things should not be gated to begin with. The comsequence of resolving the symptoms is that illegitimate use piggy back on it. Artistic literature that would legitimately deserve protection get hoarded as well. Sweating authors of clearly copyrightable arts, typically novels, manuals, are seeing their work accessed free of royalties. For the sake of freely distributing scientific literature. It makes it impossible to make then distinction given the legitimate utility is operating in a dark domain.
- deleted 9mo ago
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fragmede 9mo ago
GitHub did it for source code. https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/ https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/
Ycros 9mo ago
Yes, we should archive everything. And we should perhaps reform IP more broadly and re-think how we treat our culture. And we shouldn't expect retaliation. But retaliation will happen, and I worry that it's going to pull down one of the most incredible archives along with it.
- squigz 9mo ago
  TPB is still up, 20+ years later, despite plenty of attention from similar groups.

hirako2000 9mo ago

In that case it would be Elsevier and co.

jsheard 9mo ago
Anna's Archive recently released a dump of the entire Spotify catalogue so they are very much in the music industries crosshairs as well now.
- layer8 9mo ago
  Only metadata has been released so far.
  - rswail 9mo ago
    A lot of which was contributed by users typing in CD play lists to CDDB which got corporatised by GraceNote and ended up somewhere in Sony land. So this effectively re-releases into the public domain a lot of the user contributions during the 1990s.
hermanzegerman 9mo ago
They only distribute outdated SciHub Records
- flexagoon 9mo ago
  That's not true. Anna's Archive gets new paper uploads from Z-Lib and LibGen as well. It's much more up to date than SciHub.
  - hermanzegerman 9mo ago
    Then I need to try it again. I've found it pretty useless compared to NexusSTC for recent papers
    - 9mo ago

RCitronsBroker 9mo ago

also have the feeling that going for music is going to turn out badly