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> the agency has greenlighted a contract for a tool that can scan subjects’ irises Where does the initial iris data come from? Is this actually collected now?

beeflet 9mo ago
everywhere
noja 9mo ago
DOGE
f_devd 9mo ago
One likely source: https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/sam-altmans-worldcoin-becomes-world-and-shows-new-iris-scanning-orb-to-prove-your-humanity/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/sam-altmans-worldcoin-beco...
plagiarist 9mo ago
Probably from the airport scanners and cameras I see everyone gleefully sticking their faces in. A savings of several minutes per flight!
- close04 9mo ago
  Is this common? Airport scanners are usually face scanners. Iris scanners are almost always for employees with access to critical areas, not for travelers. I know Doha and Singapore airports use iris scanners at the security check. It's probably a growing trend, haven't seen any in the EU, is it already common in the US?
  - joncrocks 9mo ago
    There used to be a scheme in the UK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Recognition_Immigration_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Recognition_Immigration_S...
  - robocat 9mo ago
    Iris scanners are not hard to implement from a few meters in a controlled environment like immigration. I would assume Iris scanners are normal - but I couldn't find anything to corroborate that for immigration control in NZ (legally they can, and I thought the equipment did, but I couldn't verify).
- bakies 9mo ago
  The normal TSA pre-check lines make you scan your face too. They used to read "images are deleted after use" but I didn't notice that message last time I went through security. So likely it's being used by ICE now. The customs line have been doing much more rigorous face scanning for a while now.
  - plagiarist 9mo ago
    TSA allowed to opt-out of this photo the last time I flew. You may also opt-out of the body scan. Nobody does. I have a bridge to sell anyone who thinks those are deleted after use. I bet the airports are additionally recording gait using overhead cameras.
JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> Where does the initial iris data come from? Visa photos. DACA applications [1]. Basically anyone who trusted the government at any point in the past. It won't catch cartel members. But cocaine seems to be the one thing whose price this administration has driven down [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_... [2] https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/mexico-drugs-cartel-oseguera-trump-586f0cec?mod=WSJ_WNPOD https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/mexico-drugs-cartel-osegu... "Cocaine prices have fallen by nearly half to around $60 to $75 a gram compared with five years ago"
- perihelions 9mo ago
  > "Basically anyone who trusted the government at any point in the past." Over one million Afghanis voluntarily gave America their iris biometrics; now the Taliban has that data. US military negligently failed to secure it. Lists of American collaborators' biometrics and everything. https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/taliban-afghanistan-biometric-databases-us-b1908312.html https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/taliban-afghanistan-biome... ("Taliban likely to have access to biometric databases of Afghan civilians who helped US" (2021))

beeflet 9mo ago

everywhere

noja 9mo ago

DOGE

f_devd 9mo ago

One likely source: https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/sam-altmans-worldcoin-becomes-world-and-shows-new-iris-scanning-orb-to-prove-your-humanity/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/17/sam-altmans-worldcoin-beco...

plagiarist 9mo ago

Probably from the airport scanners and cameras I see everyone gleefully sticking their faces in. A savings of several minutes per flight!

close04 9mo ago
Is this common? Airport scanners are usually face scanners. Iris scanners are almost always for employees with access to critical areas, not for travelers. I know Doha and Singapore airports use iris scanners at the security check. It's probably a growing trend, haven't seen any in the EU, is it already common in the US?
- joncrocks 9mo ago
  There used to be a scheme in the UK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Recognition_Immigration_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Recognition_Immigration_S...
- robocat 9mo ago
  Iris scanners are not hard to implement from a few meters in a controlled environment like immigration. I would assume Iris scanners are normal - but I couldn't find anything to corroborate that for immigration control in NZ (legally they can, and I thought the equipment did, but I couldn't verify).
bakies 9mo ago
The normal TSA pre-check lines make you scan your face too. They used to read "images are deleted after use" but I didn't notice that message last time I went through security. So likely it's being used by ICE now. The customs line have been doing much more rigorous face scanning for a while now.
- plagiarist 9mo ago
  TSA allowed to opt-out of this photo the last time I flew. You may also opt-out of the body scan. Nobody does. I have a bridge to sell anyone who thinks those are deleted after use. I bet the airports are additionally recording gait using overhead cameras.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago

> Where does the initial iris data come from? Visa photos. DACA applications [1]. Basically anyone who trusted the government at any point in the past. It won't catch cartel members. But cocaine seems to be the one thing whose price this administration has driven down [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_... [2] https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/mexico-drugs-cartel-oseguera-trump-586f0cec?mod=WSJ_WNPOD https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/mexico-drugs-cartel-osegu... "Cocaine prices have fallen by nearly half to around $60 to $75 a gram compared with five years ago"

perihelions 9mo ago
> "Basically anyone who trusted the government at any point in the past." Over one million Afghanis voluntarily gave America their iris biometrics; now the Taliban has that data. US military negligently failed to secure it. Lists of American collaborators' biometrics and everything. https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/taliban-afghanistan-biometric-databases-us-b1908312.html https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/taliban-afghanistan-biome... ("Taliban likely to have access to biometric databases of Afghan civilians who helped US" (2021))