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This is exactly The Thing; N9 with MeeGo(more strictly Maemo) has been idolized by everyone, everywhere. Yet, Nokia tried to kill it and in fact still tries to,

by zxcdw 14y ago

This is exactly The Thing; N9 with MeeGo(more strictly Maemo) has been idolized by everyone, everywhere. Yet, Nokia tried to kill it and in fact still tries to, because it does not sit well with their earlier strategy(Symbian) nor with the current one(Windows Phone). Nokia was brought down by the internal issues between divisions, Symbian people fought against Maemo/MeeGo people and executives threw plans and requirements around at such pace that whatever got nearly finished had to be scrapped and the whole process began again. Add in other strategy decisions, issues with hardware(LTE not available, no-go for North American market) and fierce competition and it's not really surprising they've gone down at the pace they had. Well, luckily there are people who still believe on what MeeGo and N9 were built upon...

guiambros 14y ago
> N9 with MeeGo(more strictly Maemo) has been idolized by everyone, everywhere. Idolized? Yes. Is it enough to make people purchase the phone? Not at all. If a fancy UI and eye-candy animations were enough to be successful, webOS would be the leader of tablets, and I'd be using BeOS to write this. What Elop realized was that Nokia was, indeed, sitting on a "burning platform". And MeeGo wasn't the lifeboat they needed. MeeGo was fancy, but too incipient as a platform to compete against iOS/Android. No developers, no industry support, no technical expertise within the company to develop it (plus the political fights with Symbian). It'd be a long, slow, expensive and bumpy road ahead. It'd cost him 3-4 years of development time, and the the board and investors would crush him well before he could deliver on the plan. Symbian was completely f-ed up, broken to its core, so this was never an option (and it's laughable to read "Symbian was winning" as put by the OP). A much better review was also posted on HN today - "Symbian, a post-mortem" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4648843 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4648843. So the only real options were between Microsoft or Google. Android offered no differentiation against Samsung/HTC -- and no insurance against patent lawsuits. And I guess Microsoft offering a pile of cash probably helped to sweeten the deal. Will Elop be fired? Well, it wouldn't surprise me. The odds are against him, as they were since the day he joined. But I highly doubt it'll make things any better for Nokia.
- yannski 14y ago
  Well, you seem to forget that Meego and the N9 were built on Qt. And you cannot say about Qt that " No developers, no industry support, no technical expertise within the company to develop it".

by zxcdw 14y ago

guiambros 14y ago

> N9 with MeeGo(more strictly Maemo) has been idolized by everyone, everywhere. Idolized? Yes. Is it enough to make people purchase the phone? Not at all. If a fancy UI and eye-candy animations were enough to be successful, webOS would be the leader of tablets, and I'd be using BeOS to write this. What Elop realized was that Nokia was, indeed, sitting on a "burning platform". And MeeGo wasn't the lifeboat they needed. MeeGo was fancy, but too incipient as a platform to compete against iOS/Android. No developers, no industry support, no technical expertise within the company to develop it (plus the political fights with Symbian). It'd be a long, slow, expensive and bumpy road ahead. It'd cost him 3-4 years of development time, and the the board and investors would crush him well before he could deliver on the plan. Symbian was completely f-ed up, broken to its core, so this was never an option (and it's laughable to read "Symbian was winning" as put by the OP). A much better review was also posted on HN today - "Symbian, a post-mortem" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4648843 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4648843. So the only real options were between Microsoft or Google. Android offered no differentiation against Samsung/HTC -- and no insurance against patent lawsuits. And I guess Microsoft offering a pile of cash probably helped to sweeten the deal. Will Elop be fired? Well, it wouldn't surprise me. The odds are against him, as they were since the day he joined. But I highly doubt it'll make things any better for Nokia.

yannski 14y ago
Well, you seem to forget that Meego and the N9 were built on Qt. And you cannot say about Qt that " No developers, no industry support, no technical expertise within the company to develop it".