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I’m curious which specific African countries have the capability to pull off what US did with this level of precision and literally no casualties. Moreover thes

I’m curious which specific African countries have the capability to pull off what US did with this level of precision and literally no casualties. Moreover these countries already hate US, so shouldn’t they logically hate the US actions as well?

rdm_blackhole 9mo ago
It's not about the feasibility itself, it's about the precedent that was set. Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. > no casualties 40 people died > Moreover these countries already hate US, so shouldn’t they logically hate the US actions as well? It doesn't matter if they hate the US or not. That is not the point. The point is that it makes this sort of actions completely legitimate.
- toomanyrichies 9mo ago
  > Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. It sounds like you're assuming the goal is moral coherence. It isn't; Trump and MAGA have always been completely philosophically untethered. The goal here is demonstrating that Trump is exempt from the rules he enforces on others. The more obviously hypocritical it is, the clearer the message: "We're strong enough that we don't need to be consistent." It's posturing and dominance signaling, nothing more.
- innagadadavida 9mo ago
  > actions completely legitimate So if I'm a dictoator in Africa who hates US and the west, I'd first think oh that evil empire already did that so I can also do it too? Why would they even care what US does? This makes no sense.
- __turbobrew__ 9mo ago
  > Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. American exceptionalism, not a new concept
ZeroGravitas 9mo ago
I thought I'd read there was 40 deaths, is there an official source for no casualties?
- kelseyfrog 9mo ago
  GP means US casualties. As in the other guys lives don't count.
  - innagadadavida 9mo ago
    No I did not. Moreover the bodyguards were Cuban mercenary, not civilian nor Venezuelan military.
    - kelseyfrog 9mo ago
      My mistake, you're right, Cuban mercenaries don't count.
- lawrencejgd 9mo ago
  The NYT reports that there are now 80 dead and that the number may rise.
  - bschmidt25004 9mo ago
    [dead]

rdm_blackhole 9mo ago

It's not about the feasibility itself, it's about the precedent that was set. Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. > no casualties 40 people died > Moreover these countries already hate US, so shouldn’t they logically hate the US actions as well? It doesn't matter if they hate the US or not. That is not the point. The point is that it makes this sort of actions completely legitimate.

toomanyrichies 9mo ago
> Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. It sounds like you're assuming the goal is moral coherence. It isn't; Trump and MAGA have always been completely philosophically untethered. The goal here is demonstrating that Trump is exempt from the rules he enforces on others. The more obviously hypocritical it is, the clearer the message: "We're strong enough that we don't need to be consistent." It's posturing and dominance signaling, nothing more.
innagadadavida 9mo ago
> actions completely legitimate So if I'm a dictoator in Africa who hates US and the west, I'd first think oh that evil empire already did that so I can also do it too? Why would they even care what US does? This makes no sense.
__turbobrew__ 9mo ago
> Can you look in the eye someone and forbid them from doing something that you just did? It makes zero sense. American exceptionalism, not a new concept

ZeroGravitas 9mo ago

I thought I'd read there was 40 deaths, is there an official source for no casualties?

kelseyfrog 9mo ago
GP means US casualties. As in the other guys lives don't count.
- innagadadavida 9mo ago
  No I did not. Moreover the bodyguards were Cuban mercenary, not civilian nor Venezuelan military.
  - kelseyfrog 9mo ago
    My mistake, you're right, Cuban mercenaries don't count.
lawrencejgd 9mo ago
The NYT reports that there are now 80 dead and that the number may rise.
- bschmidt25004 9mo ago
  [dead]