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> 1. The best engineers are obsessed with solving user problems. Complete bullshit. Sorry, but the reason why people use Google is because of the ecosystem + v

> 1. The best engineers are obsessed with solving user problems. Complete bullshit. Sorry, but the reason why people use Google is because of the ecosystem + value proposition. Google Drive & Calendar are some of the most outdated pieces of SaaS software that only gets used because of the greater ecosystem they live in - and price. They (along with the other Google products) are also some of the poorest designed user interfaces online. Let's cut the crap for once here. If I were Google I would be worried because companies like Fastmail, Notion & Proton are quickly catching up.

websiteapi 9mo ago
> If I were Google I would be worried because companies like Fastmail, Notion & Proton are quickly catching up. lol do you honestly think Google is worried about Fastmail, Notion or Proton?
- joduplessis 9mo ago
  > are quickly catching up. If you were Yahoo a few years before Google it would sound the same.
  - websiteapi 9mo ago
    the writing was already on the road w.r.t to user mindshare among normies. I see no evidence of the same happening with fast mail. why would anyone switch from gmail to fast mail other than privacy, which regular people couldn't care less about?
    - joduplessis 9mo ago
      Privacy, as well as overall product experience. Btw, I didn't just mention Fastmail.
gosub100 9mo ago
Thats a poor characterization to choose 2 of the least talked about apps from that company. Also your response to the claim "the best engineers do X" is logically flawed. Maybe google doesn't use their "best engineers" to build out those cherry-picked examples? maybe they used them for Search or infrastructure or something else?
- joduplessis 9mo ago
  I'm commenting on the article, and the first point in the article doesn't sound like search or infra. Maybe read that before assuming things. And why would it be "logically flawed"?
  - gosub100 9mo ago
    google has a lot more products besides the 2 you picked. Some of them are wildly successful, even. Maybe they use their "best engineers" on the more successful products?

websiteapi 9mo ago

> If I were Google I would be worried because companies like Fastmail, Notion & Proton are quickly catching up. lol do you honestly think Google is worried about Fastmail, Notion or Proton?

joduplessis 9mo ago
> are quickly catching up. If you were Yahoo a few years before Google it would sound the same.
- websiteapi 9mo ago
  the writing was already on the road w.r.t to user mindshare among normies. I see no evidence of the same happening with fast mail. why would anyone switch from gmail to fast mail other than privacy, which regular people couldn't care less about?
  - joduplessis 9mo ago
    Privacy, as well as overall product experience. Btw, I didn't just mention Fastmail.

gosub100 9mo ago

Thats a poor characterization to choose 2 of the least talked about apps from that company. Also your response to the claim "the best engineers do X" is logically flawed. Maybe google doesn't use their "best engineers" to build out those cherry-picked examples? maybe they used them for Search or infrastructure or something else?

joduplessis 9mo ago
I'm commenting on the article, and the first point in the article doesn't sound like search or infra. Maybe read that before assuming things. And why would it be "logically flawed"?
- gosub100 9mo ago
  google has a lot more products besides the 2 you picked. Some of them are wildly successful, even. Maybe they use their "best engineers" on the more successful products?