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It appears people are now using the term "Microslop" which I find funny. I'm not in any way an anti-AI absolutist but I do get annoyed by how Microsoft has jamm

It appears people are now using the term "Microslop" which I find funny. I'm not in any way an anti-AI absolutist but I do get annoyed by how Microsoft has jammed it into every nook and cranny of their product suite.

Spivak 9mo ago
And it's not even good I can't understand what they're trying to do. I press the button occasionally just to mess with it and it has zero access to my data to do anything useful. Copilot in Outlook can't read my email, it's just a worse ChatGPT window sitting next to my email. What use-cases are you even imagining?
- mwcz 9mo ago
  What they're certainly trying to do is get good annual reviews which increasingly revolve around saying "Look, I did AI."
  - TesterVetter 9mo ago
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- ronbenton 9mo ago
  They're trying to ship AI features. Which is the issue. They shouldn't be shipping AI features, they should be solving problems. If AI features are in service of solving those problems then great. But starting from a fad solution and trying to reverse-engineer a problem is backwards.
- wolvoleo 9mo ago
  It can have access to all your data, but they want you to pay $30 a month for that. The free one doesn't have this access. Fwiw I have that at work and IMO it's not worth that much. It's more useful than the free one but nothing game changing.
darubedarob 9mo ago
"Have you considered Copilot as your personal lord and retirements saviour?" These unwanted product pitches have something cultist and unsettling. Like all voices of reason have been removed the echo chamber diving bell is so sealed that the CEO blogs to ge to hear some sort of pushback. Time to serve the cool aid.
darth_avocado 9mo ago
People wouldn’t be anti-AI if they weren’t losing their livelihood over AI only to find that everything they thought they’d do while being unemployed is also being ruined by AI.
- satvikpendem 9mo ago
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  - browningstreet 9mo ago
    4000 customer support people at Salesforce replaced by AI
    - AndrewDucker 9mo ago
      Which they now regret: https://maarthandam.com/2025/12/25/salesforce-regrets-firing-4000-staff-ai/ https://maarthandam.com/2025/12/25/salesforce-regrets-firing... (But you are correct that they did lay them off.)
      - hu3 9mo ago
        > Which they now regret for now. being early can be the same thing as being wrong.
    - satvikpendem 9mo ago
      > competently doing what the person did AI is not there yet to replace any person's job.
      - E39M5S62 9mo ago
        Tell that to translators.
      - 12_throw_away 9mo ago
        > AI is not there yet to replace any person's job. This is of course true, but it has not actually prevented any layoffs. Management generally does not understand this, does not care, or is happy to have a pretext to fire a bunch of workers to make stock go up.
sylens 9mo ago
That's the thing - there are people who like AI, but hate Microsoft's approach to it. They draw disdain from that group of people on top of all of the people who hate AI in general. Truly a shortsighted CEO and company
randycupertino 9mo ago
> I do get annoyed by how Microsoft has jammed it into every nook and cranny of their product suite. It's infuriating that you can't even minimize it or close it. I love One Note, use it for work constantly and it's great for tracking meetings, notes, to do lists, vendor contacts, whatever. Now there's a giant COPILOT icon in the middle of the notebook and you can't move it, close it or minimize it. There's no way to disable it entirely. I'd be find if it were in the dropdown menu but shoved into the middle of the page is so aggravating, it's blocking my actual work and text.
- wolvoleo 9mo ago
  You actually like onenote? Note taking is my primary tool at work but I really hate onenote. The web version can't even search properly in all folders. And there's no desktop Linux version. Privately I use obsidian with self hosted livesync which is amazing. But at work I have to use Copilot. In some ways I don't mind it in onenote because it actually succeeds in finding stuff the search function doesn't. Syncing to mobile often doesn't work right either. To me it's the worst O365 app and the one I need the most :(
  - randycupertino 9mo ago
    I do like it! I have been using it since college though so maybe I am just set in my ways and lazy to move to something new. The way I set it up I don't find myself searching for things much as I know the way it's organized to quickly find things I need.
    - wolvoleo 9mo ago
      Ah I see. I don't find it very fast and I really need good search because my notes are total chaos like my brain :)
      - lenkite 9mo ago
        I have observed that people who are used to Onenote mainly like it for its inline-box style notes which can be inserted at any point in the page. Obsidian due to its markdown backend can't support this. Unless you painfully mess with tables, you have to stick to linear top-down approach and don't have free-form flexibility.

Spivak 9mo ago

And it's not even good I can't understand what they're trying to do. I press the button occasionally just to mess with it and it has zero access to my data to do anything useful. Copilot in Outlook can't read my email, it's just a worse ChatGPT window sitting next to my email. What use-cases are you even imagining?

mwcz 9mo ago
What they're certainly trying to do is get good annual reviews which increasingly revolve around saying "Look, I did AI."
- TesterVetter 9mo ago
  [dead]
ronbenton 9mo ago
They're trying to ship AI features. Which is the issue. They shouldn't be shipping AI features, they should be solving problems. If AI features are in service of solving those problems then great. But starting from a fad solution and trying to reverse-engineer a problem is backwards.
wolvoleo 9mo ago
It can have access to all your data, but they want you to pay $30 a month for that. The free one doesn't have this access. Fwiw I have that at work and IMO it's not worth that much. It's more useful than the free one but nothing game changing.

darubedarob 9mo ago

"Have you considered Copilot as your personal lord and retirements saviour?" These unwanted product pitches have something cultist and unsettling. Like all voices of reason have been removed the echo chamber diving bell is so sealed that the CEO blogs to ge to hear some sort of pushback. Time to serve the cool aid.

darth_avocado 9mo ago

People wouldn’t be anti-AI if they weren’t losing their livelihood over AI only to find that everything they thought they’d do while being unemployed is also being ruined by AI.

satvikpendem 9mo ago
[flagged]
- browningstreet 9mo ago
  4000 customer support people at Salesforce replaced by AI
  - AndrewDucker 9mo ago
    Which they now regret: https://maarthandam.com/2025/12/25/salesforce-regrets-firing-4000-staff-ai/ https://maarthandam.com/2025/12/25/salesforce-regrets-firing... (But you are correct that they did lay them off.)
    - hu3 9mo ago
      > Which they now regret for now. being early can be the same thing as being wrong.
  - satvikpendem 9mo ago
    > competently doing what the person did AI is not there yet to replace any person's job.
    - E39M5S62 9mo ago
      Tell that to translators.
    - 12_throw_away 9mo ago
      > AI is not there yet to replace any person's job. This is of course true, but it has not actually prevented any layoffs. Management generally does not understand this, does not care, or is happy to have a pretext to fire a bunch of workers to make stock go up.

sylens 9mo ago

That's the thing - there are people who like AI, but hate Microsoft's approach to it. They draw disdain from that group of people on top of all of the people who hate AI in general. Truly a shortsighted CEO and company

randycupertino 9mo ago

> I do get annoyed by how Microsoft has jammed it into every nook and cranny of their product suite. It's infuriating that you can't even minimize it or close it. I love One Note, use it for work constantly and it's great for tracking meetings, notes, to do lists, vendor contacts, whatever. Now there's a giant COPILOT icon in the middle of the notebook and you can't move it, close it or minimize it. There's no way to disable it entirely. I'd be find if it were in the dropdown menu but shoved into the middle of the page is so aggravating, it's blocking my actual work and text.

wolvoleo 9mo ago
You actually like onenote? Note taking is my primary tool at work but I really hate onenote. The web version can't even search properly in all folders. And there's no desktop Linux version. Privately I use obsidian with self hosted livesync which is amazing. But at work I have to use Copilot. In some ways I don't mind it in onenote because it actually succeeds in finding stuff the search function doesn't. Syncing to mobile often doesn't work right either. To me it's the worst O365 app and the one I need the most :(
- randycupertino 9mo ago
  I do like it! I have been using it since college though so maybe I am just set in my ways and lazy to move to something new. The way I set it up I don't find myself searching for things much as I know the way it's organized to quickly find things I need.
  - wolvoleo 9mo ago
    Ah I see. I don't find it very fast and I really need good search because my notes are total chaos like my brain :)
    - lenkite 9mo ago
      I have observed that people who are used to Onenote mainly like it for its inline-box style notes which can be inserted at any point in the page. Obsidian due to its markdown backend can't support this. Unless you painfully mess with tables, you have to stick to linear top-down approach and don't have free-form flexibility.