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I don't see this is happening, it's a tremendous death from removing a dictator who's authority was legitimate, to invading Greenland. I just don't see that and

I don't see this is happening, it's a tremendous death from removing a dictator who's authority was legitimate, to invading Greenland. I just don't see that and I think this is more click bait and rage bait. I don't agree with how it was done, but I'm glad to see maduro gone, but it's opened a very, very, very dangerous door.....

Jordan-117 9mo ago
*illegitimate
wozer 9mo ago
The Danish government takes the threat seriously: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0zg974v1o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0zg974v1o
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  So does the rest of Europe on a high structural level. Individually things are more complex.
  - iainmerrick 9mo ago
    Right. Anyone who thinks this is not a real threat is sadly deluded. However, if you think through the scenarios, the US is in a very strong military position and there's not much Denmark or the EU as a whole would be able to do about it. They could threaten a direct military response, on the basis of making the annexation more trouble than it's worth, but then you're just playing chicken with a significantly crazier enemy. Most likely the EU would try to calm the waters, and offer a compromise peace / surrender plan along the lines of the one the US has offered Russia in Ukraine. The biggest obstacle ought to be political opposition and public protests within the US itself, but right now the US government is in a position to just move fast and make things happen, what with the weak Congress and compliant Supreme Court. I hope and believe it'll become much less likely after the midterms, with a Democrat-led Congress motivated to push back against the executive's excesses.
    - jacquesm 9mo ago
      It would start off with a complete boycott of anything US made and that will result in a lot of irreversible damage. This is a path to madness and I'm really surprised that there are no saner heads in the US putting a stop to this before it gets even further out of control. I'm even more surprised at how many people in the US support this, either tacitly or even outright.
tordrt 9mo ago
How is this click bait and rage bait? I think the article is quite reasonably telling the events leading up to and the response from Denmark. The president says Greenland needs to be a part of the US, and he wont rule out using military force. The wife of one of his cabinet members tweets a picture where Greenland belongs to the US and captions it "SOON". How is Denmark supposed the respond when the president is actively threatening them? You have been acclimated to having a president who says crazy things. This is not normal. I think almost nobody sees it actually happening, but just the fact that he is saying these things is insane.
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  Exactly, it is the whole 'normalization of deviance' thing all over again.

Jordan-117 9mo ago

*illegitimate

wozer 9mo ago

The Danish government takes the threat seriously: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0zg974v1o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0zg974v1o

jacquesm 9mo ago
So does the rest of Europe on a high structural level. Individually things are more complex.
- iainmerrick 9mo ago
  Right. Anyone who thinks this is not a real threat is sadly deluded. However, if you think through the scenarios, the US is in a very strong military position and there's not much Denmark or the EU as a whole would be able to do about it. They could threaten a direct military response, on the basis of making the annexation more trouble than it's worth, but then you're just playing chicken with a significantly crazier enemy. Most likely the EU would try to calm the waters, and offer a compromise peace / surrender plan along the lines of the one the US has offered Russia in Ukraine. The biggest obstacle ought to be political opposition and public protests within the US itself, but right now the US government is in a position to just move fast and make things happen, what with the weak Congress and compliant Supreme Court. I hope and believe it'll become much less likely after the midterms, with a Democrat-led Congress motivated to push back against the executive's excesses.
  - jacquesm 9mo ago
    It would start off with a complete boycott of anything US made and that will result in a lot of irreversible damage. This is a path to madness and I'm really surprised that there are no saner heads in the US putting a stop to this before it gets even further out of control. I'm even more surprised at how many people in the US support this, either tacitly or even outright.

tordrt 9mo ago

How is this click bait and rage bait? I think the article is quite reasonably telling the events leading up to and the response from Denmark. The president says Greenland needs to be a part of the US, and he wont rule out using military force. The wife of one of his cabinet members tweets a picture where Greenland belongs to the US and captions it "SOON". How is Denmark supposed the respond when the president is actively threatening them? You have been acclimated to having a president who says crazy things. This is not normal. I think almost nobody sees it actually happening, but just the fact that he is saying these things is insane.

jacquesm 9mo ago
Exactly, it is the whole 'normalization of deviance' thing all over again.