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My guess is the Danes and EU would complain but not go to war and hope the thing gets reversed when the current president leaves office.

by tim333 10mo ago

hdgvhicv 10mo ago
Had America gone about it in another way and explained to its nato allies it needed to build more bases in Greenland it would have been done with barely a headline. But that’s not what Trump wants.
- microtonal 10mo ago
  Zero sum games. If Greenland is independent, it would also get a percentage of the natural resources it extracts, which is money that the US oligarchy does not get.
ffsm8 10mo ago
Isn't it If he leaves office at this point, or does it only sound like it from Europe? They've been testing the waters for way to frequently with seemingly very little pushback... to me, a third presidency is basically guaranteed at this point - one way or another. If they need to falsify the results they'll rationalize it via the "stolen election" If I was a gambling man I'd have already spend a few thousand on polymarket. I'm not though, so it'll abstain
- oliwarner 10mo ago
  He's old and overweight. His presidency will end "one way or another".
- csa 10mo ago
  > Isn't it If he leaves office at this point, or does it only sound like it from Europe? While I appreciate your sentiment, we really need to stop with this specific type of pearl clutching. The current president’s mental and physical condition is deteriorating rapidly. He will be lucky to make it through the current term in a functional state. Adding another number of years to his time in office would mean that he almost literally would need to be propped up by his caretakers. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No, and it’s not even close, imho. There is plenty of commentary that can be made about the political machine behind him, but let’s not project that to the dotard currently in office.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 10mo ago
    "We don't need to worry about the guy making serious noises about an unconstitutional 3rd term because he might die in office" is a position that does not do anything about the problems that have allowed Trump to happen. Could even say it leaves fertile ground for the next populist authoritarian who comes along. We must challenge the unitary executive theory. America is not intended to be a dictatorship or monarchy. It's not OK for Trump / those in his orbit to make comments about a 3rd term, it is a problem, it is something we need to take seriously.
    - csa 10mo ago
      > “We don't need to worry about the guy making serious noises about an unconstitutional 3rd term because he might die in office" is a position that does not do anything about the problems that have allowed Trump to happen. Could even say it leaves fertile ground for the next populist authoritarian who comes along. > We must challenge the unitary executive theory. America is not intended to be a dictatorship or monarchy. It's not OK for Trump / those in his orbit to make comments about a 3rd term, it is a problem, it is something we need to take seriously. This is all covered in my last paragraph (which, imho, is a separate issue from the current president): “There is plenty of commentary that can be made about the political machine behind him, but let’s not project that to the dotard currently in office.” The current president isn’t smart enough to do what it takes to stay in office more than two terms. This is all the work of those around him. To be more pointed, fixating on Trump rather than the political and social machine around him — which many people seem to do — is missing the forest for the trees.
  - Hikikomori 10mo ago
    This isn't really trump, he's not the one with the plan, it's all project 2025 people, even Venezuela is a bullet point in it. There's about zero chance it ends with trump unless the cult of personality dies with him.
  - jacquesm 10mo ago
    We should not have to count on the grim reaper to serve as backstop for failing political institutions.

My guess is the Danes and EU would complain but not go to war and hope the thing gets reversed when the current president leaves office.

by tim333 10mo ago

My guess is the Danes and EU would complain but not go to war and hope the thing gets reversed when the current president leaves office.

hdgvhicv 10mo ago

Had America gone about it in another way and explained to its nato allies it needed to build more bases in Greenland it would have been done with barely a headline. But that’s not what Trump wants.

microtonal 10mo ago
Zero sum games. If Greenland is independent, it would also get a percentage of the natural resources it extracts, which is money that the US oligarchy does not get.

ffsm8 10mo ago

Isn't it If he leaves office at this point, or does it only sound like it from Europe? They've been testing the waters for way to frequently with seemingly very little pushback... to me, a third presidency is basically guaranteed at this point - one way or another. If they need to falsify the results they'll rationalize it via the "stolen election" If I was a gambling man I'd have already spend a few thousand on polymarket. I'm not though, so it'll abstain

oliwarner 10mo ago
He's old and overweight. His presidency will end "one way or another".
csa 10mo ago
> Isn't it If he leaves office at this point, or does it only sound like it from Europe? While I appreciate your sentiment, we really need to stop with this specific type of pearl clutching. The current president’s mental and physical condition is deteriorating rapidly. He will be lucky to make it through the current term in a functional state. Adding another number of years to his time in office would mean that he almost literally would need to be propped up by his caretakers. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No, and it’s not even close, imho. There is plenty of commentary that can be made about the political machine behind him, but let’s not project that to the dotard currently in office.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 10mo ago
  "We don't need to worry about the guy making serious noises about an unconstitutional 3rd term because he might die in office" is a position that does not do anything about the problems that have allowed Trump to happen. Could even say it leaves fertile ground for the next populist authoritarian who comes along. We must challenge the unitary executive theory. America is not intended to be a dictatorship or monarchy. It's not OK for Trump / those in his orbit to make comments about a 3rd term, it is a problem, it is something we need to take seriously.
  - csa 10mo ago
    > “We don't need to worry about the guy making serious noises about an unconstitutional 3rd term because he might die in office" is a position that does not do anything about the problems that have allowed Trump to happen. Could even say it leaves fertile ground for the next populist authoritarian who comes along. > We must challenge the unitary executive theory. America is not intended to be a dictatorship or monarchy. It's not OK for Trump / those in his orbit to make comments about a 3rd term, it is a problem, it is something we need to take seriously. This is all covered in my last paragraph (which, imho, is a separate issue from the current president): “There is plenty of commentary that can be made about the political machine behind him, but let’s not project that to the dotard currently in office.” The current president isn’t smart enough to do what it takes to stay in office more than two terms. This is all the work of those around him. To be more pointed, fixating on Trump rather than the political and social machine around him — which many people seem to do — is missing the forest for the trees.
- Hikikomori 10mo ago
  This isn't really trump, he's not the one with the plan, it's all project 2025 people, even Venezuela is a bullet point in it. There's about zero chance it ends with trump unless the cult of personality dies with him.
- jacquesm 10mo ago
  We should not have to count on the grim reaper to serve as backstop for failing political institutions.