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The speedometer and rev counter are ugly as sin. And still no temperature dial. They achieved near perfection 20 years ago: https://external-content.duckduckg

The speedometer and rev counter are ugly as sin. And still no temperature dial. They achieved near perfection 20 years ago: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carsinvasion.com%2Fgallery%2F2005-volkswagen-polo%2F2005-volkswagen-polo-14.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=da881c6d0342bfe7494fdc8b24c2418185e83ccca2c454e400695cad6ed8caa4 https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F...

gglanzani 9mo ago
But it’s not a rev counter, is it?
- hexbin010 9mo ago
  It's still ugly though, isn't it?
vinay427 9mo ago
This has a few other issues to me compared to many similar dials. It’s unclear what the temperature numbers actually mean if this isn’t an automatic climate control system (or is in manual mode). The part that rotates also appears to be symmetric, which means one may need to find the white marking to decipher where the dial is pointing. That can be even more difficult in a dark environment than trying to read a display.
- hexbin010 9mo ago
  Yes, not perfect, but MUCH better than their current version of touch-screen only climate control, which is an exercise in frustration. "Relative perfection" :) The numbers are centigrade, which for the local market is mostly very obvious and widely understood. 22 is roughly room temperature, so it's good that's at 12 o'clock. This model doesn't have auto climate control. > which means one may need to find the white marking to decipher where the dial is pointing You hand can feel the angle the dial is pointing. It was a non-issue for me. the white is illuminated softly at night, and one very quick glance can confirm the position anyway. Anyway, I'm contrasting to this modern VW abomination: https://www.discoverauto.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025-vw-golf-whichcar-3.jpg https://www.discoverauto.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2... . Try to feel where the slider is set to on that interface... :D Or quickly enable the rear/front demister options...
  - vinay427 9mo ago
    > The numbers are centigrade, which for the local market is mostly very obvious and widely understood. 22 is roughly room temperature, so it's good that's at 12 o'clock. I'm aware of centigrade, I've lived in places that use centigrade. :) My issue is that absolute temperature markings don't seem appropriate for a manual climate control system that isn't matching a temperature. Here, the traditional blue/red-style markers or similar are probably more informative. > You hand can feel the angle the dial is pointing. It was a non-issue for me. the white is illuminated softly at night, and one very quick glance can confirm the position anyway. Fair, if it's clear with some tactile difference and is visible at night that seems quite alright!
mft_ 9mo ago
Then you’ll be glad to know that they will offer a range of designs (or skins, I guess) including one based on retro VW speedometer designs. [0] [0] https://youtu.be/8u_8ohSpOh4 https://youtu.be/8u_8ohSpOh4
climb_stealth 9mo ago
What does the leftmost button in your example do? The tall one with a drink on it.
- edelhans 9mo ago
  Exactly what you think - pops out a cup holder
  - climb_stealth 9mo ago
    D'uh, thanks! That did not occur to me at all to be honest. But it does make sense.
CamperBob2 9mo ago
Yeah, I liked this interior better when it was made by Pontiac, circa 1989.

gglanzani 9mo ago

But it’s not a rev counter, is it?

hexbin010 9mo ago
It's still ugly though, isn't it?

vinay427 9mo ago

This has a few other issues to me compared to many similar dials. It’s unclear what the temperature numbers actually mean if this isn’t an automatic climate control system (or is in manual mode). The part that rotates also appears to be symmetric, which means one may need to find the white marking to decipher where the dial is pointing. That can be even more difficult in a dark environment than trying to read a display.

hexbin010 9mo ago
Yes, not perfect, but MUCH better than their current version of touch-screen only climate control, which is an exercise in frustration. "Relative perfection" :) The numbers are centigrade, which for the local market is mostly very obvious and widely understood. 22 is roughly room temperature, so it's good that's at 12 o'clock. This model doesn't have auto climate control. > which means one may need to find the white marking to decipher where the dial is pointing You hand can feel the angle the dial is pointing. It was a non-issue for me. the white is illuminated softly at night, and one very quick glance can confirm the position anyway. Anyway, I'm contrasting to this modern VW abomination: https://www.discoverauto.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025-vw-golf-whichcar-3.jpg https://www.discoverauto.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2... . Try to feel where the slider is set to on that interface... :D Or quickly enable the rear/front demister options...
- vinay427 9mo ago
  > The numbers are centigrade, which for the local market is mostly very obvious and widely understood. 22 is roughly room temperature, so it's good that's at 12 o'clock. I'm aware of centigrade, I've lived in places that use centigrade. :) My issue is that absolute temperature markings don't seem appropriate for a manual climate control system that isn't matching a temperature. Here, the traditional blue/red-style markers or similar are probably more informative. > You hand can feel the angle the dial is pointing. It was a non-issue for me. the white is illuminated softly at night, and one very quick glance can confirm the position anyway. Fair, if it's clear with some tactile difference and is visible at night that seems quite alright!

mft_ 9mo ago

Then you’ll be glad to know that they will offer a range of designs (or skins, I guess) including one based on retro VW speedometer designs. [0] [0] https://youtu.be/8u_8ohSpOh4 https://youtu.be/8u_8ohSpOh4

climb_stealth 9mo ago

What does the leftmost button in your example do? The tall one with a drink on it.

edelhans 9mo ago
Exactly what you think - pops out a cup holder
- climb_stealth 9mo ago
  D'uh, thanks! That did not occur to me at all to be honest. But it does make sense.

CamperBob2 9mo ago

Yeah, I liked this interior better when it was made by Pontiac, circa 1989.