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It's funny that this comment is also an example of a confidently wrong judgment. The props are 100% accurate to what's going on in the show. Not really possible

by viccis 10mo ago

It's funny that this comment is also an example of a confidently wrong judgment. The props are 100% accurate to what's going on in the show. Not really possible to explain why without spoiling it, but the milk cartons are supposed to be suspicious.

satvikpendem 10mo ago
Did they edit their comment? They know the props are similar to the art, hence why they said > is followed by "oh the real props do that"
- renewiltord 10mo ago
  His response is confusing to me as well. I didn't edit it that drastically. I moved one or two of the clauses around but the fundamental thrust was: if you think it's an AI image because of the whole-milk/low-fat discordance, but real-world designs for the show also have that discordance, then you should consider that the discordance does not mean it's AI. That would still be true if: * it was indeed an AI poster * it was an AI image poster made to look that way * it was a human-made poster accidentally made that way * it was a human-made poster intentionally made to look that way The truth of the show itself could have no bearing on what I was saying. The only thing it does rely on is whether or not the real-world designs did not correspond to the poster image.
  - satvikpendem 10mo ago
    The reality is that humans suck at telling AI. Sure, there are obvious tells for certain things, but if one really tries, they can make AI generated content indistinguishable from human made. You even see this on Twitter, where actual human artists are sometimes subjected to a modern day witch hunt by others saying their art is AI, and the artists literally have to prove that it was made by them, sometimes by pulling up various stages of the drawing in progress (and what is even funnier is that now Google's Nano Banana Pro can even generate that sort of progress compilation images).
  - viccis 10mo ago
    My point was that the mistake didn't happen during prop creation. Those aren't milk cartons, those are HDP cartons, so the props are correct. As to the content of your post: It doesn't make sense. Thinking something is not human created when it turns out that the real reason was that it wasn't created by a human in the show is not a valid reason to stop applying that as a useful discriminator between AI and human art. It's a Gettier case, but the J part of JTB knowledge still stands, and there's a reason grappling with the Gettier problem is so gnarly in epistemology.

by viccis 10mo ago

satvikpendem 10mo ago

Did they edit their comment? They know the props are similar to the art, hence why they said > is followed by "oh the real props do that"

renewiltord 10mo ago
His response is confusing to me as well. I didn't edit it that drastically. I moved one or two of the clauses around but the fundamental thrust was: if you think it's an AI image because of the whole-milk/low-fat discordance, but real-world designs for the show also have that discordance, then you should consider that the discordance does not mean it's AI. That would still be true if: * it was indeed an AI poster * it was an AI image poster made to look that way * it was a human-made poster accidentally made that way * it was a human-made poster intentionally made to look that way The truth of the show itself could have no bearing on what I was saying. The only thing it does rely on is whether or not the real-world designs did not correspond to the poster image.
- satvikpendem 10mo ago
  The reality is that humans suck at telling AI. Sure, there are obvious tells for certain things, but if one really tries, they can make AI generated content indistinguishable from human made. You even see this on Twitter, where actual human artists are sometimes subjected to a modern day witch hunt by others saying their art is AI, and the artists literally have to prove that it was made by them, sometimes by pulling up various stages of the drawing in progress (and what is even funnier is that now Google's Nano Banana Pro can even generate that sort of progress compilation images).
- viccis 10mo ago
  My point was that the mistake didn't happen during prop creation. Those aren't milk cartons, those are HDP cartons, so the props are correct. As to the content of your post: It doesn't make sense. Thinking something is not human created when it turns out that the real reason was that it wasn't created by a human in the show is not a valid reason to stop applying that as a useful discriminator between AI and human art. It's a Gettier case, but the J part of JTB knowledge still stands, and there's a reason grappling with the Gettier problem is so gnarly in epistemology.