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Isnt it an intentional choice? The show Pluribus has a not-so-subtle analogy to an LLM that has access to the world’s knowledge, doing its best to give whateve

Isnt it an intentional choice? The show Pluribus has a not-so-subtle analogy to an LLM that has access to the world’s knowledge, doing its best to give whatever we ask it for, and not being the brightest tool in the shed. I think the artist accomplished what they wanted to in the context of the show. EDIT: I stand corrected, the show’s analogy to AI is coincidental.

minimaxir 9mo ago
Vince Gilligan has stated in interviews that the anti-AI themes are coincidental and Pluribus was written before the AI boom.
- paulryanrogers 9mo ago
  Interesting. Still, original intent aside, the audience will draw their own comparisons and develop their own take aways. IMO that's fine because art isn't a one way street. Audiences also play a role in how it's interpreted and what happens to it in private and once copyright and trademark expire.
  - crashbunny 9mo ago
    Doesn't the word "coincidental" imply Vince Gilligan is OK with the anti AI take? He's not denying it's there, he's saying it's not intentional, it's coincidental. I agree with "art isn't a one way street". But, it's also up to the artist whether people's interpretation is "right" or "wrong". Some artists love when people find meaning in their work that wasn't intentional, and some don't. One story that's burnt into my brain, is about Ray Bradbury giving a guest lecture. This is meant to be a quote from Bradbury. It's hard to know what's real these days. From "Listen to the Echoes: The Ray Bradbury Interviews" "Weller: have you encounted academic misinterpretation of your work? Bradbury: I was lecturing at Cal Fullerton once and they misinterpreted Fahrenheit 451, and after about half an hour of arguing with them, telling them that they were wrong, I said, “Fuck you.” I've never used that word before, and I left the classroom.'" I think it's fine to read Fahenheit 451 and have your own opinions about its main theme, but, it's another thing to get into an argument with the author about it. Bradbury said Fahenheit 451 is about the effect of mass media on society, if it was written today, it might be about the effect of AI on society.
- konaraddi 9mo ago
  Oh that’s good to know, I’ll edit my comment
andrewflnr 9mo ago
If it was intentional, they wouldn't be as shy about admitting it. But as far as your "correction" goes, even if the anti-genAI overtones at its inception are a coincidence, it wouldn't be too crazy for someone making related art today to play up the coincidence anyway. So I think your original idea was still a reasonable guess.

minimaxir 9mo ago

Vince Gilligan has stated in interviews that the anti-AI themes are coincidental and Pluribus was written before the AI boom.

paulryanrogers 9mo ago
Interesting. Still, original intent aside, the audience will draw their own comparisons and develop their own take aways. IMO that's fine because art isn't a one way street. Audiences also play a role in how it's interpreted and what happens to it in private and once copyright and trademark expire.
- crashbunny 9mo ago
  Doesn't the word "coincidental" imply Vince Gilligan is OK with the anti AI take? He's not denying it's there, he's saying it's not intentional, it's coincidental. I agree with "art isn't a one way street". But, it's also up to the artist whether people's interpretation is "right" or "wrong". Some artists love when people find meaning in their work that wasn't intentional, and some don't. One story that's burnt into my brain, is about Ray Bradbury giving a guest lecture. This is meant to be a quote from Bradbury. It's hard to know what's real these days. From "Listen to the Echoes: The Ray Bradbury Interviews" "Weller: have you encounted academic misinterpretation of your work? Bradbury: I was lecturing at Cal Fullerton once and they misinterpreted Fahrenheit 451, and after about half an hour of arguing with them, telling them that they were wrong, I said, “Fuck you.” I've never used that word before, and I left the classroom.'" I think it's fine to read Fahenheit 451 and have your own opinions about its main theme, but, it's another thing to get into an argument with the author about it. Bradbury said Fahenheit 451 is about the effect of mass media on society, if it was written today, it might be about the effect of AI on society.
konaraddi 9mo ago
Oh that’s good to know, I’ll edit my comment

andrewflnr 9mo ago

If it was intentional, they wouldn't be as shy about admitting it. But as far as your "correction" goes, even if the anti-genAI overtones at its inception are a coincidence, it wouldn't be too crazy for someone making related art today to play up the coincidence anyway. So I think your original idea was still a reasonable guess.