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Lots of the comments here are attributing the decline to a toxic community or overly-strict moderation, but I don't think that that is the main reason. The TeX

Lots of the comments here are attributing the decline to a toxic community or overly-strict moderation, but I don't think that that is the main reason. The TeX site [0] is very friendly and has somewhat looser moderation, yet it shows the exact same decline [1]. [0]: https://tex.stackexchange.com/ https://tex.stackexchange.com/ [1]: https://data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/1926661#graph https://data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/1926661#graph

bachmeier 10mo ago
Hate to argue with people on the internet, but your graph doesn't actually show what you claim. The TeX data was stable until late 2021, whereas the SO decline started in 2017. I also would expect some correlation so that SO was a drag on the TeX site.
- cracki 10mo ago
  I would ascribe that to these communities evolving differently. There is no reason to assume that the popularity of LaTeX tracks the popularity of programming languages. It's a type setting system. And that doesn't even take into account communities that exist parallel to SO/SE. Surely there exist communities today for LaTeX that have been around since before SO began its life.
  - gucci-on-fleek 10mo ago
    > Surely there exist communities today for LaTeX that have been around since before SO began its life. Yup, TeXhax has been around since 1986 [0], and comp.text.tex has been around since 1983/1990 [1], and both are still somewhat active. [0]: https://www.ctan.org/pkg/texhax https://www.ctan.org/pkg/texhax [1]: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb45-3/tb141lucas-usenet.pdf https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb45-3/tb141lucas-usenet.pdf
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Nebasuke 10mo ago
A similar but not as strong decline. Taking the one but last datapoint for both (stackoverflow/tex respectively): 4436 and 394. If you compare this to how it looked like between 2015-2020 you get (my guess from scanning): 160,000 and 1700. So Stackoverflow as a whole went from 160K -> ~4.4K. That's like a 35x drop, compared to tex, where it's a 1700 -> 394, 4x drop.

bachmeier 10mo ago

Hate to argue with people on the internet, but your graph doesn't actually show what you claim. The TeX data was stable until late 2021, whereas the SO decline started in 2017. I also would expect some correlation so that SO was a drag on the TeX site.

cracki 10mo ago
I would ascribe that to these communities evolving differently. There is no reason to assume that the popularity of LaTeX tracks the popularity of programming languages. It's a type setting system. And that doesn't even take into account communities that exist parallel to SO/SE. Surely there exist communities today for LaTeX that have been around since before SO began its life.
- gucci-on-fleek 10mo ago
  > Surely there exist communities today for LaTeX that have been around since before SO began its life. Yup, TeXhax has been around since 1986 [0], and comp.text.tex has been around since 1983/1990 [1], and both are still somewhat active. [0]: https://www.ctan.org/pkg/texhax https://www.ctan.org/pkg/texhax [1]: https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb45-3/tb141lucas-usenet.pdf https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb45-3/tb141lucas-usenet.pdf

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Nebasuke 10mo ago

A similar but not as strong decline. Taking the one but last datapoint for both (stackoverflow/tex respectively): 4436 and 394. If you compare this to how it looked like between 2015-2020 you get (my guess from scanning): 160,000 and 1700. So Stackoverflow as a whole went from 160K -> ~4.4K. That's like a 35x drop, compared to tex, where it's a 1700 -> 394, 4x drop.