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They're pulling out all the stops. If you told me that whoever was in charge of the consumer versions of Windows was trying to drive it into the ground, I'd bel

by petepete 10mo ago

They're pulling out all the stops. If you told me that whoever was in charge of the consumer versions of Windows was trying to drive it into the ground, I'd believe you.

dotancohen 10mo ago
To be fair, Microsoft did deliberately drive Nokia into the ground.
- wvenable 10mo ago
  Nokia was driving pretty close to the ground before Microsoft ever got involved.
  - lfllfkddl 10mo ago
    Well, many consider Elop to be a Microsoft asset.
- saubeidl 10mo ago
  Maybe the Finns got their mole in to extract revenge. Don't forget Linux is Finnish as well ;-)
  - wiseowise 10mo ago
    Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
- justsomehnguy 10mo ago
  Look at the Nokia sales volume, revenue and the date of Burning Platform memo - and don't repeat this bullshit ever again.
chocochunks 10mo ago
They're working on Xbox too!
- tialaramex 10mo ago
  At this point probably there's no room for another Playstation-style video game console. My friend who plays only console-style video games, the sort of person who owned Wii-U and an Xbox One as well as that generation of Playstation, bought a gaming PC last year. He will undoubtedly buy a Switch 2 at some point, to play a Zelda or something, but why would you buy another Xbox? So I think Xbox becomes a brand for video games with Windows and then gradually it loses relevance until one day the question is "Why isn't Minecraft on Steam like a proper video game?"
  - eek2121 10mo ago
    According to leaks with an excellent track recordWe are getting at least 1 more console, and possibly 2. The first (most likely) is a classic Xbox, the second is a handheld. After that, who knows? All I know is that I own both an Xbox Series X and a PS5. I use the PS5 more. I also own a PC, and it sees more than 1,000 times the usage of either. I bought the PS5 for exclusives, and Sony began changing that. However there are still alot of older PS4/PS5 titles that are fun to play, and some games are just better with a controller and a TV. That being said, I'm likely not going to purchase any other consoles.
    - tialaramex 10mo ago
      The desire for controller + TV obviously also affected my console-gaming friend. So, the gaming PC is hooked up to a wireless controller and to his gaming display + audio setup, which was historically a ceiling mounted projector and surround speakers (he moved since I last spent hours playing games with him) The PC means there's a wireless keyboard and some sort of pointing device, but they're just for launching games & basic admin. Edited to add: Also WTF for refreshing the Xbox. Who is the audience for this product? What is your lead title? Another Halo? But there's going to be an excellent Halo for the PS5 and for PCs, right? A GTA? But people want the newer GTA which won't fit. Maybe I just don't understand the vision here.

They're pulling out all the stops. If you told me that whoever was in charge of the consumer versions of Windows was trying to drive it into the ground, I'd believe you.

dotancohen 10mo ago

To be fair, Microsoft did deliberately drive Nokia into the ground.

wvenable 10mo ago
Nokia was driving pretty close to the ground before Microsoft ever got involved.
- lfllfkddl 10mo ago
  Well, many consider Elop to be a Microsoft asset.
saubeidl 10mo ago
Maybe the Finns got their mole in to extract revenge. Don't forget Linux is Finnish as well ;-)
- wiseowise 10mo ago
  Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
justsomehnguy 10mo ago
Look at the Nokia sales volume, revenue and the date of Burning Platform memo - and don't repeat this bullshit ever again.

chocochunks 10mo ago

They're working on Xbox too!

tialaramex 10mo ago
At this point probably there's no room for another Playstation-style video game console. My friend who plays only console-style video games, the sort of person who owned Wii-U and an Xbox One as well as that generation of Playstation, bought a gaming PC last year. He will undoubtedly buy a Switch 2 at some point, to play a Zelda or something, but why would you buy another Xbox? So I think Xbox becomes a brand for video games with Windows and then gradually it loses relevance until one day the question is "Why isn't Minecraft on Steam like a proper video game?"
- eek2121 10mo ago
  According to leaks with an excellent track recordWe are getting at least 1 more console, and possibly 2. The first (most likely) is a classic Xbox, the second is a handheld. After that, who knows? All I know is that I own both an Xbox Series X and a PS5. I use the PS5 more. I also own a PC, and it sees more than 1,000 times the usage of either. I bought the PS5 for exclusives, and Sony began changing that. However there are still alot of older PS4/PS5 titles that are fun to play, and some games are just better with a controller and a TV. That being said, I'm likely not going to purchase any other consoles.
  - tialaramex 10mo ago
    The desire for controller + TV obviously also affected my console-gaming friend. So, the gaming PC is hooked up to a wireless controller and to his gaming display + audio setup, which was historically a ceiling mounted projector and surround speakers (he moved since I last spent hours playing games with him) The PC means there's a wireless keyboard and some sort of pointing device, but they're just for launching games & basic admin. Edited to add: Also WTF for refreshing the Xbox. Who is the audience for this product? What is your lead title? Another Halo? But there's going to be an excellent Halo for the PS5 and for PCs, right? A GTA? But people want the newer GTA which won't fit. Maybe I just don't understand the vision here.