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This reminds me of Schiller's abandonment of Instagram after they ported to Android. Strange to see such an influential and successful company acting in such a

This reminds me of Schiller's abandonment of Instagram after they ported to Android. Strange to see such an influential and successful company acting in such a childishly vindictive manner.

amartya916 14y ago
Vindictive it might be, but childish it is not. I really think Apple has to get away from the dependency on Samsung; it needs to partner with a company that doesn't have the potential of taking advantage of Apple's product roadmap. I cannot believe that people don't talk between Samsung's mobile division and their semi-conductor fabrication business (regardless of NDAs). I think being Apple's supplier and themselves being in the business of making phones and tablets, has worked to Samsung's advantage. That being said, I think Samsung is a really powerful company and they'll be able to hold their own (i.e. revenues from product sales etc.) without Apple's business.
taligent 14y ago
Sorry but the only thing child-like is your idea that Apple would make such an important decision on a whim. These are multi-billion dollar decisions affecting the big cash cows of Apple's business.
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  These are multi-billion dollar decisions affecting the big cash cows of Apple's business. But yammering about starting nuclear wars isn't child-like at all. Straight out of the Sloan School of Management, right?
CamperBob2 14y ago
Apple has been running completely open-loop for a long time now. When they can abuse customers, ignore market demands, remove or downgrade key features, and still sell out of a multi-million unit preorder on launch day, there is no incentive for them to even ask what their customers want, much less design for it. We have the patent system to thank for this. If you want a smartphone that doesn't suck, you will have to give money to Apple, live with the product's shortcomings... and pray they don't alter the deal further when the next iOS version ships.
- mdonahoe 14y ago
  "We have the patent system to thank for this." Are you claiming that other phones are shitty because Apple has patented all the good ideas?
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    Yes, because when the government grants monopoly power over abstract ideas -- something the current patent system isn't supposed to do but does anyway -- it puts its finger (if not its whole hand) on the scales of competition. Patents don't exist to help the little guy; if they did, we'd have gotten rid of them a long time ago. An argument in defense of patents is inevitably an exercise in defending companies that make hundreds of millions in profits before they even begin to enforce those patents. The profits should be enough.

This reminds me of Schiller's abandonment of Instagram after they ported to Android. Strange to see such an influential and successful company acting in such a childishly vindictive manner.

amartya916 14y ago

Vindictive it might be, but childish it is not. I really think Apple has to get away from the dependency on Samsung; it needs to partner with a company that doesn't have the potential of taking advantage of Apple's product roadmap. I cannot believe that people don't talk between Samsung's mobile division and their semi-conductor fabrication business (regardless of NDAs). I think being Apple's supplier and themselves being in the business of making phones and tablets, has worked to Samsung's advantage. That being said, I think Samsung is a really powerful company and they'll be able to hold their own (i.e. revenues from product sales etc.) without Apple's business.

taligent 14y ago

Sorry but the only thing child-like is your idea that Apple would make such an important decision on a whim. These are multi-billion dollar decisions affecting the big cash cows of Apple's business.

CamperBob2 14y ago
These are multi-billion dollar decisions affecting the big cash cows of Apple's business. But yammering about starting nuclear wars isn't child-like at all. Straight out of the Sloan School of Management, right?

CamperBob2 14y ago

Apple has been running completely open-loop for a long time now. When they can abuse customers, ignore market demands, remove or downgrade key features, and still sell out of a multi-million unit preorder on launch day, there is no incentive for them to even ask what their customers want, much less design for it. We have the patent system to thank for this. If you want a smartphone that doesn't suck, you will have to give money to Apple, live with the product's shortcomings... and pray they don't alter the deal further when the next iOS version ships.

mdonahoe 14y ago
"We have the patent system to thank for this." Are you claiming that other phones are shitty because Apple has patented all the good ideas?
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  Yes, because when the government grants monopoly power over abstract ideas -- something the current patent system isn't supposed to do but does anyway -- it puts its finger (if not its whole hand) on the scales of competition. Patents don't exist to help the little guy; if they did, we'd have gotten rid of them a long time ago. An argument in defense of patents is inevitably an exercise in defending companies that make hundreds of millions in profits before they even begin to enforce those patents. The profits should be enough.