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It's also a threefold solution to Trump's current problems - 1. it takes the Epstien files completely out of media discourse, which is what Trump wants after i

by NickC25 10mo ago

It's also a threefold solution to Trump's current problems - 1. it takes the Epstien files completely out of media discourse, which is what Trump wants after it was pretty much confirmed that he's a pedophile. 2. it satisfies the biggest donors to the republican party - weapons manufacturers and oil companies. 3. it allows Trump to control the narrative, and makes the media forget about the drugs that were supposedly being exported from venezuela. truth is there are effectively no drugs coming in from venezuela. i saw a deep explainer on reddit (yes, it could entirely be bullshit) that basically said that venezula produces between 0.02 to 0.08% of all illicit drugs entering the USA per year. No idea how that is calculated, but it makes sense in the context that Houndouras' president was effectively pardoned by Trump, and Hondouras by its very location is balls deep in the drug trade Bonus: honors the practice of a republican president invading a country under bullshit premises to capture oil. Bush I and II both did so.

ch4s3 10mo ago
This is pure conspiracy, and doesn’t belong in this forum.
- NickC25 10mo ago
  Trump agents out in full force, I see. Counter any of them with real evidence, I dare you. 1. Trump is a pedophile. This is confirmed by the fact that he's been sued for his pedaristic actions, and "wished well" his former Mossad-backed recruiter. 2. Weapons makers and oil companies have quite literally had their executives and shareholders go from the board room to cabinet or VP level positions in the US government. this isn't a conspiracy. 3. Venezuela produces very little of the drugs the US consumer consumes. Mexico, Colombia, etc.. produce far more, like double-digit multiples more. Context: I live in SoFLA and interact with Venezuelans daily, and I lived in Mexico for several years and am pretty familiar with how their cartels operate.
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- ycombinary 10mo ago
  It would be conspiracy if Trump didn't always say the quiet part out loud (40 seconds in) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=153GkS75mwM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=153GkS75mwM
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- VectorLock 10mo ago
  Conspiracy? This is all out in the open.
  - ch4s3 10mo ago
    The previous poster totally misunderstands how the War Power Act works, and many of those statements are at best supposition and at worst demonstrably false. The war powers act does not allow any domestic action at all. > 2. it satisfies the biggest donors to the republican party - weapons manufacturers and oil companies. This is nonsense the defense industry contributes pretty much evenly to each party. And the oil industry bit is just like the nonsense take on the Iraq war which saw virtually no contracts going to US companies. Additionally: >truth is there are effectively no drugs coming in from venezuela. While Venezuela does not supply drugs bound for the US the regime there has long partnered with FARC to smuggle cocaine and weapons[1]. > Bonus: honors the practice of a republican president invading a country under bullshit premises to capture oil. Bush I and II both did so. The first Gulf War was about kicking Saddam out of Kuwait, not capturing oil, so yeah conspiracy and false statements. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_state-sponsored_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_state-sponsored_...
    - NickC25 10mo ago
      >This is nonsense the defense industry contributes pretty much evenly to each party. Wow, that's the most cringe thing I've seen in this thread. The defense industry owns both parties but contributes significantly more to Repbublican efforts than DEM efforts. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?Ind=D https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?Ind=D You'll notice that while the defense industry contributes to DEM candidates, they far outspend on "conservative" politicians. >And the oil industry bit is just like the nonsense take on the Iraq war which saw virtually no contracts going to US companies. The US oil industry didn't get any contracts during the Iraq takeover? The oil industry literally had a Haliburton CEO, Dick Cheney, go from the C-Suite to the Vice Presidency.
      - ch4s3 10mo ago
speakfreely 10mo ago
> which is what Trump wants after it was pretty much confirmed that he's a pedophile. While there's no shortage of creepy anecdotes about Trump in what's been released, there's been nothing that comes close to showing he had sex with any underage girls, nor have any come forward to claim that. > Bonus: honors the practice of a republican president invading a country under bullshit premises to capture oil. Bush I and II both did so. People are missing the point here. This wasn't a regime change, this is psychological warfare against the ruling party to get them to be more compliant. And yes, of course it's all about oil. While this could potentially deny China access to Venezuelan oil in the long term, it also removes the threat to Guyana's production, which is skyrocketing.
- ycombinary 10mo ago
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- tsunamifury 10mo ago
  I think you’re the type of person that believes the court of law (and public opinion) needs NP complete proof to make someone guilty. It doesn’t. The files contain enough evidence to convict any regular citizen.
- johnbellone 10mo ago
  Delusions until the end.
- goatlover 10mo ago
  The woman known as Katie Johnson accused Trump of raping her and another girl at age 13 at one of Epstein's parties, but dropped the lawsuit. Michael Wolff said Epstein showed him pictures of Trump with topless girls who could have been underaged from his vault. Trump was accused of going into his underaged beauty pageants when they were dressing. Trump sent the birthday letter to Epstein with the nude female drawing and lots of innuendo about sharing a secret. Maxwell was given a very favorable deal by Todd Blanche, and it's known the administration didn't want to release the full Epstein files because of how much Trump was mentioned in them. Plus Trump was very good friends with Epstein and Maxwell. Do the math.

by NickC25 10mo ago

ch4s3 10mo ago

This is pure conspiracy, and doesn’t belong in this forum.

NickC25 10mo ago
Trump agents out in full force, I see. Counter any of them with real evidence, I dare you. 1. Trump is a pedophile. This is confirmed by the fact that he's been sued for his pedaristic actions, and "wished well" his former Mossad-backed recruiter. 2. Weapons makers and oil companies have quite literally had their executives and shareholders go from the board room to cabinet or VP level positions in the US government. this isn't a conspiracy. 3. Venezuela produces very little of the drugs the US consumer consumes. Mexico, Colombia, etc.. produce far more, like double-digit multiples more. Context: I live in SoFLA and interact with Venezuelans daily, and I lived in Mexico for several years and am pretty familiar with how their cartels operate.
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ycombinary 10mo ago
It would be conspiracy if Trump didn't always say the quiet part out loud (40 seconds in) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=153GkS75mwM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=153GkS75mwM
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VectorLock 10mo ago
Conspiracy? This is all out in the open.
- ch4s3 10mo ago
  The previous poster totally misunderstands how the War Power Act works, and many of those statements are at best supposition and at worst demonstrably false. The war powers act does not allow any domestic action at all. > 2. it satisfies the biggest donors to the republican party - weapons manufacturers and oil companies. This is nonsense the defense industry contributes pretty much evenly to each party. And the oil industry bit is just like the nonsense take on the Iraq war which saw virtually no contracts going to US companies. Additionally: >truth is there are effectively no drugs coming in from venezuela. While Venezuela does not supply drugs bound for the US the regime there has long partnered with FARC to smuggle cocaine and weapons[1]. > Bonus: honors the practice of a republican president invading a country under bullshit premises to capture oil. Bush I and II both did so. The first Gulf War was about kicking Saddam out of Kuwait, not capturing oil, so yeah conspiracy and false statements. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_state-sponsored_terrorism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_and_state-sponsored_...
  - NickC25 10mo ago
    >This is nonsense the defense industry contributes pretty much evenly to each party. Wow, that's the most cringe thing I've seen in this thread. The defense industry owns both parties but contributes significantly more to Repbublican efforts than DEM efforts. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?Ind=D https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?Ind=D You'll notice that while the defense industry contributes to DEM candidates, they far outspend on "conservative" politicians. >And the oil industry bit is just like the nonsense take on the Iraq war which saw virtually no contracts going to US companies. The US oil industry didn't get any contracts during the Iraq takeover? The oil industry literally had a Haliburton CEO, Dick Cheney, go from the C-Suite to the Vice Presidency.
    - ch4s3 10mo ago

speakfreely 10mo ago

> which is what Trump wants after it was pretty much confirmed that he's a pedophile. While there's no shortage of creepy anecdotes about Trump in what's been released, there's been nothing that comes close to showing he had sex with any underage girls, nor have any come forward to claim that. > Bonus: honors the practice of a republican president invading a country under bullshit premises to capture oil. Bush I and II both did so. People are missing the point here. This wasn't a regime change, this is psychological warfare against the ruling party to get them to be more compliant. And yes, of course it's all about oil. While this could potentially deny China access to Venezuelan oil in the long term, it also removes the threat to Guyana's production, which is skyrocketing.

ycombinary 10mo ago
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tsunamifury 10mo ago
I think you’re the type of person that believes the court of law (and public opinion) needs NP complete proof to make someone guilty. It doesn’t. The files contain enough evidence to convict any regular citizen.
johnbellone 10mo ago
Delusions until the end.
goatlover 10mo ago
The woman known as Katie Johnson accused Trump of raping her and another girl at age 13 at one of Epstein's parties, but dropped the lawsuit. Michael Wolff said Epstein showed him pictures of Trump with topless girls who could have been underaged from his vault. Trump was accused of going into his underaged beauty pageants when they were dressing. Trump sent the birthday letter to Epstein with the nude female drawing and lots of innuendo about sharing a secret. Maxwell was given a very favorable deal by Todd Blanche, and it's known the administration didn't want to release the full Epstein files because of how much Trump was mentioned in them. Plus Trump was very good friends with Epstein and Maxwell. Do the math.