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Well it’s even simpler than that on paper. The government has a succession plan. Most likely outcome: Maduros party stays in power It may actually mean next to

Well it’s even simpler than that on paper. The government has a succession plan. Most likely outcome: Maduros party stays in power It may actually mean next to nothing geopolitically other than to outrage the rest of the world and make Trump look tough.

johannes1234321 10mo ago
> make Trump look tough. But only to his loyalists.
- Spooky23 10mo ago
  Exactly. Delivering freedom to Venezuela will get the splintering aspects of his tribe focused on the message and away from Epstein. The people he needs at home are pretty simple. This type of thing makes it easier for his loyal propagandists to do their thing.
  - rfrey 10mo ago
    I thought his loyalists were expressly against protecting foreigners from oppression, e.g. Ukraine? America first etc.
    - sigwinch 10mo ago
      This will be a real challenge, then. Who is performatively nimble enough to say “we’ve always been at war with Venezuela!”
    - mindslight 10mo ago
      Remember in his first term how he had his loyalists, many of who were expressly in "support" of the 2nd amendment, cheering on the government jackboots who came in the middle of the night to make "cold dead hands" ? The cultists will believe anything. That's the fundamental problem with cults.
    - Spooky23 10mo ago
      I think the narrative is that South America is America.
lvspiff 10mo ago
I think this is something thats really missing. In the vacuum of power who is stepping in? If its someone who is just going to sell oil to the us who gets to continue to oppress and destroy the Venezuelan economy then is it really a win? It be like the Russians taking out Trump only to have Vance take over. Hes still propped up by miller, hegseth, bondi, the house AND senate AND courts and the cavalcades of sycophants who really only are doing the whims of oligarchs who have no interest in helping society as a whole.

johannes1234321 10mo ago

> make Trump look tough. But only to his loyalists.

Spooky23 10mo ago
Exactly. Delivering freedom to Venezuela will get the splintering aspects of his tribe focused on the message and away from Epstein. The people he needs at home are pretty simple. This type of thing makes it easier for his loyal propagandists to do their thing.
- rfrey 10mo ago
  I thought his loyalists were expressly against protecting foreigners from oppression, e.g. Ukraine? America first etc.
  - sigwinch 10mo ago
    This will be a real challenge, then. Who is performatively nimble enough to say “we’ve always been at war with Venezuela!”
  - mindslight 10mo ago
    Remember in his first term how he had his loyalists, many of who were expressly in "support" of the 2nd amendment, cheering on the government jackboots who came in the middle of the night to make "cold dead hands" ? The cultists will believe anything. That's the fundamental problem with cults.
  - Spooky23 10mo ago
    I think the narrative is that South America is America.

lvspiff 10mo ago

I think this is something thats really missing. In the vacuum of power who is stepping in? If its someone who is just going to sell oil to the us who gets to continue to oppress and destroy the Venezuelan economy then is it really a win? It be like the Russians taking out Trump only to have Vance take over. Hes still propped up by miller, hegseth, bondi, the house AND senate AND courts and the cavalcades of sycophants who really only are doing the whims of oligarchs who have no interest in helping society as a whole.