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> It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. What gives you that impression? I haven't seen a single comm
by embedding-shape 10mo ago
> It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day.
What gives you that impression? I haven't seen a single comment that is surprised or wasn't aware of the existing history between the two nations, nor a single comment saying that "Ok, I'm glad/sad that that's over now". What comments specifically are you talking about?
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- mikkupikku 10mo agoThere is plenty of talk in MIGA/MAGA circles that say, in effect, that Venezuelans have now been liberated, there will be no occupation, and other related assumptions / coping mechanisms which they are using to preserve the facade of Trump being anti-war.
- zppln 10mo agoMIGA?
- mikkupikku 10mo ago[flagged]
- metadope 10mo agoMy favorite computer was a MIGA
- febusravenga 10mo agoMake India Great Again, something coined early 2025 around Modi's visit in US. According to brief we search.
- archy_ 10mo agoI've also seen it stand for Make Israel Great Again, given the unwavering support for Netanyahu and his agenda from the administration
- edgineer 10mo agoI see Google's AI and top results all give this answer, but "MIGA" most certainly does not refer to India in this or most contexts, but to Israel. It is a criticism of Trump's pro-Israel actions, and presumably Google recognizes its anti-semitic usage and so will not suggest that as an answer unprompted. I'm pointing this out specifically because I'm surprised to see that Google and also DuckDuckGo both suppress the true definition if you don't already know it.
- pqtyw 10mo agoReagan something very similar twice and it worked out reasonably(ish) fine. Of course Venesuela isn't that similar to Panama or Granada in various ways. Given the massive amounts of internal issues, and insanely high levels of crime/murder removing the government and washing your hands might turn it into something like Haiti... Fundamentally on the moral level removing oppressive tyrants like Sadam, Maduro, Gaddafi etc. is the right thing to do. Of course nobody ever figured out how to prevent the situation from getting even worse in the aftermath..
- mikkupikku 10mo agoI do concede that it is possible the situation will deescalate from here on out, but there is no possible way to be sure of that. Right now the situation is very volatile and could very easily spiral into a huge mess. MAGA people don't want to acknowledge that possibility, because they want to believe Trump is honest and competent.
- knicholes 10mo ago"MAGA people," yeesh.
- mikkupikku 10mo agoSorry, I meant "People of a MAGA Persuasion." People first terminology, right?
- knicholes 10mo agoI think you would be best served prioritizing other areas of study over geopolitical conflicts; one that teaches you to respect people, even if their beliefs differ from your own.
- mikkupikku 10mo agoLol, you're crying about "MAGA people"
- estearum 10mo agoAndrew Yang: "Bringing Maduro to stand trial feels like a win for the region and the world." Could be! Could also be really bad.
- master_crab 10mo agoLaw of unintended consequences weighs heavy…
- skippyboxedhero 10mo agoThere is no unintended consequence. Regime change was the explicit consequence of wars in the Middle East, it was the intended consequence. It went very badly. The intended consequence here is to demonstrate to an organized crime group that being part of the government does not mean they are safe. There is no other intention, it has worked.
- lostlogin 10mo agoSo you’re backing the rapist, paedophile and fraudster again the criminal?
- skippyboxedhero 10mo agoI have no idea who you are talking about. Politics isn't a team sport for me so I have no idea about the memes.
- Eldt 10mo agoThere are always unintended consequences... always.
- neves 10mo agoNo. It couldn't be. Not even a remote chance.
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- TrackerFF 10mo agoPlenty of far-right pages are already celebrating "Mission accomplished!" Only reason I know, is that if I check out any of the explore pages on IG etc. I get too many of those pages.
- Findecanor 10mo agoI'd expect some of those to be made of astroturf, though ...
- UncleMeat 10mo ago"Far right fascists aren't real. Don't believe your lying eyes. They definitely don't run the fucking government." What is this endless desire to claim that the right lacks any agency whatsoever.
- tbrownaw 10mo agoHow many are clear references to Bush's premature declaration of success?
- hypeatei 10mo agoThis forum won't have any obviously partisan comments (that are visible, anyway) so you have to read between the lines. They will have an air of "hah, well, Trump already captured Maduro so what do you think of that liberal?" but instead disguised as something like this[0]. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46474662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46474662
- mexicocitinluez 10mo ago> What gives you that impression? What's the next stage then according to the administration?
- SecretDreams 10mo agoAnyone celebrating has the tone of "we did it, it's over". You wouldn't really celebrate if you thought anything bad comes next. This is kind of more like a "gasp" moment, even if Maduro sucks.
- tantalor 10mo ago> "He [Rubio] anticipates no further action in Venezuela now that Maduro is in US custody," says Senator Lee
- thrownato 10mo agoYes, he has to telegraph that to the world to try to minimize fears that the US _desires_ a prolonged intervention, regardless of what happens, and regardless of what he actually believes. Statements made by politician need not be taken as truthful.
- ycombinary 10mo agoWar powers act. No more democracy.
- delecti 10mo agoWhat about the war powers act are you talking about? It just limits situations (or purports to) where the president can use the military without a declaration of war. Even if we were suddenly actually attacked (not just Venezuelan forces fighting back) it wouldn't give any path to "no more democracy".
- ycombinary 10mo agoThere is a path to no more democracy, and being at war makes that path a lot easier. I'm not American, my 'war powers act' statement wasn't pointing at specific legislation, it was a hand wave to the past. It rhymes.
- throw0101a 10mo agoThe President can now tell "his" DOJ to indict someone in another country (like its leader), and use that to 'legally' justify an attack on said country to grab the person. Ironically, the current administration thinks that American courts can hold any president accountable for crimes, except the American president.
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