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> It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country So easy. Exactly why Sweden have had a "zero tolerance" policy against drug

> It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country So easy. Exactly why Sweden have had a "zero tolerance" policy against drugs, particularly Cannabis, yet usage keeps growing no matter how much resources they keep throwing at stricter border controls and trying to reduce both supply and demand by arresting everyone with even traces of Cannabinoids in their blood. https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports/2019/sweden_en https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports... > People selling drugs such as fentanyl or cocaine have various techniques to hook consumers and keep them addicted regardless of their mental state. Selling hard drugs is criminalized for a good reason. You're making the argument for why these things should be sold in controlled circumstances, rather than by private individuals who don't care about anything else but themselves, yet you end with "is criminalized for a good reason". Completely opposite, you're making the argument for why it needs to be legalized.

Saline9515 10mo ago
There is a difference between "0 tolerance", which affects mainly users, and "no entry", which prevents the product to reach your border. In the case of Sweden, it is mainly a symptom of non-european immigration, using their criminal networks to import the product. Netherland is dominated by Moroccan mafia, France by the Algerian mafia, and so on. Remigrating them would likely solve a big part of the problem. > controlled selling Yes, that's already the case in most countries: I can get opioids such as morphine in the case of surgical operation. Many ADHD teens get derivatives of amphetamines. No one is against this.
- rich_sasha 10mo ago
  OTBE, if you reduce supply, prices tend to increase. So although you're getting less of the stuff in, you're equally incentivised as a criminal. OTOH, if demand drops, that's real money out of traffickers pockets. They sell less, and at lower prices.
  - Saline9515 10mo ago
    If you reduce supply, less product is consumed by society, which is the intended effect.
    - embedding-shape 10mo ago
      You have to think as a person who does drugs though. You want to get high, and product A is not available, what do you do? You're not solving any problems, you're moving them around. What's the point?
      - Saline9515 10mo ago
        They will consume less product A as a result. If product A is highly destructive/addictive (e.g, crack), it's a win.
        mrWiz 10mo ago
        In practice they tend to substitute A with B, and B is often times even more destructive (black market fentanyl rather than medical opioids, or just inhalants).

Saline9515 10mo ago

There is a difference between "0 tolerance", which affects mainly users, and "no entry", which prevents the product to reach your border. In the case of Sweden, it is mainly a symptom of non-european immigration, using their criminal networks to import the product. Netherland is dominated by Moroccan mafia, France by the Algerian mafia, and so on. Remigrating them would likely solve a big part of the problem. > controlled selling Yes, that's already the case in most countries: I can get opioids such as morphine in the case of surgical operation. Many ADHD teens get derivatives of amphetamines. No one is against this.

rich_sasha 10mo ago
OTBE, if you reduce supply, prices tend to increase. So although you're getting less of the stuff in, you're equally incentivised as a criminal. OTOH, if demand drops, that's real money out of traffickers pockets. They sell less, and at lower prices.
- Saline9515 10mo ago
  If you reduce supply, less product is consumed by society, which is the intended effect.
  - embedding-shape 10mo ago
    You have to think as a person who does drugs though. You want to get high, and product A is not available, what do you do? You're not solving any problems, you're moving them around. What's the point?
    - Saline9515 10mo ago
      They will consume less product A as a result. If product A is highly destructive/addictive (e.g, crack), it's a win.
      - mrWiz 10mo ago
        In practice they tend to substitute A with B, and B is often times even more destructive (black market fentanyl rather than medical opioids, or just inhalants).