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To be fair that applies to Maduro to if you count crimes against humanity in general. Certainly applied to Sadam. So now the question is how to do you capture
by pqtyw 10mo ago
To be fair that applies to Maduro to if you count crimes against humanity in general. Certainly applied to Sadam.
So now the question is how to do you capture this leadership without foreign intervention while they are still in power?
Talk is nice... but there is no real mechanism to impose what you are proposing besides this.
- j_maffe 10mo agoYou do it as part of an international order, i.e. an impartial UN. Though obviously we don't have that yet.
- DrBazza 10mo agoThe only 'leaders' that end up in the Hague and convicted are those forcibly captured via military action. And those 'orders' declared by the UN can, and be vetoed by China, Russia, USA, UK, and France. Guess which two use their veto all the time?
- pqtyw 10mo agoAnd there are not that many indications that we are moving towards that direction or we can even ever have. I guess that sort of idealism might have existed in the late 40s immediately after the UN was established but it never had a chance. External or internal (which seems rarely feasible unless the government is highly incompetent) regime change realistically is the only thing that worked.
- aebtebeten 10mo agoThat sort of idealism existed as late as 1962, but its leading proponent was cancelled in 1963: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46482997 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46482997
- aebtebeten 10mo agoCome to think of it, WJC signed the Rome Statute in 2000, but then GWB unsigned it in 2002, which, coincidentally or uncoincidentally, was followed by the first reports of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisone... in 2003