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Especially for the supposed capturing of a foreign leader. But maybe we did this with Gaddafi and Hussein, not sure what Congressional approval there was for th

Especially for the supposed capturing of a foreign leader. But maybe we did this with Gaddafi and Hussein, not sure what Congressional approval there was for those either. Apparently H.W. Bush also ordered the capture of Noriega for drug trafficking charges. I'm tired of the US thinking that military forceful action is the way to resolve conflicts, especially the way to win the "war on drugs." We should be much more effective at reducing drug addiction if we realized that it's not so much about the drugs, it's about our growing culture of conflict and emotional avoidance. When a population lets itself feel sadness, feel pain, and reinterpret conflicts from the assumed "they don't care about me" to "they care more about me than I may ever realize," then I am willing to bet the drug industry will shrink significantly. Punishing those who sell drugs often just perpetuates this idea that punishment resolves conflict, which I'm very willing to bet actually _increases_ our tendency to be addicted to drugs.

NoLinkToMe 9mo ago
Agreed, but this has nothing to do with drugs.
- chneu 9mo ago
  This whole thing is an oil grab. Simple as that.
  - cyanydeez 9mo ago
    Ok, but to be clear, its a capitalist oil grab to protect business interests and oligarchy. People seem to conflate whats supposed to be separate in these realms Like, when we talk about farmer subsidies, wedont call it food grab, when its functionally the same. Shouldnt we just drop this american democracy facade for a hybrid corporatocracy with optional citizen input? Anyway, oil grab suggests American government, rather than business interests, benefits.
  - pstuart 9mo ago
    It's not just oil, it's minerals too: https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5642398-venezuela-minerals-us-strategy/ https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5642398-venezuela-...
- analognoise 9mo ago
  Operation: Epstein Distraction is go.
Saline9515 9mo ago
Every culture consumes drugs. There was a massive heroine consumption problem before WWI in the US, which was largely mitigated by making it illegal to sell it over-the-counter. It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country, than solving the self-actualization issues (is it even one?) of your population. People selling drugs such as fentanyl or cocaine have various techniques to hook consumers and keep them addicted regardless of their mental state. Selling hard drugs is criminalized for a good reason.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country So easy. Exactly why Sweden have had a "zero tolerance" policy against drugs, particularly Cannabis, yet usage keeps growing no matter how much resources they keep throwing at stricter border controls and trying to reduce both supply and demand by arresting everyone with even traces of Cannabinoids in their blood. https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports/2019/sweden_en https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports... > People selling drugs such as fentanyl or cocaine have various techniques to hook consumers and keep them addicted regardless of their mental state. Selling hard drugs is criminalized for a good reason. You're making the argument for why these things should be sold in controlled circumstances, rather than by private individuals who don't care about anything else but themselves, yet you end with "is criminalized for a good reason". Completely opposite, you're making the argument for why it needs to be legalized.
  - Saline9515 9mo ago
    There is a difference between "0 tolerance", which affects mainly users, and "no entry", which prevents the product to reach your border. In the case of Sweden, it is mainly a symptom of non-european immigration, using their criminal networks to import the product. Netherland is dominated by Moroccan mafia, France by the Algerian mafia, and so on. Remigrating them would likely solve a big part of the problem. > controlled selling Yes, that's already the case in most countries: I can get opioids such as morphine in the case of surgical operation. Many ADHD teens get derivatives of amphetamines. No one is against this.

NoLinkToMe 9mo ago

Agreed, but this has nothing to do with drugs.

chneu 9mo ago
This whole thing is an oil grab. Simple as that.
- cyanydeez 9mo ago
  Ok, but to be clear, its a capitalist oil grab to protect business interests and oligarchy. People seem to conflate whats supposed to be separate in these realms Like, when we talk about farmer subsidies, wedont call it food grab, when its functionally the same. Shouldnt we just drop this american democracy facade for a hybrid corporatocracy with optional citizen input? Anyway, oil grab suggests American government, rather than business interests, benefits.
- pstuart 9mo ago
  It's not just oil, it's minerals too: https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5642398-venezuela-minerals-us-strategy/ https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5642398-venezuela-...
analognoise 9mo ago
Operation: Epstein Distraction is go.

Saline9515 9mo ago

Every culture consumes drugs. There was a massive heroine consumption problem before WWI in the US, which was largely mitigated by making it illegal to sell it over-the-counter. It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country, than solving the self-actualization issues (is it even one?) of your population. People selling drugs such as fentanyl or cocaine have various techniques to hook consumers and keep them addicted regardless of their mental state. Selling hard drugs is criminalized for a good reason.

embedding-shape 9mo ago
> It's far easier to reduce consumption by cutting the supply entering your country So easy. Exactly why Sweden have had a "zero tolerance" policy against drugs, particularly Cannabis, yet usage keeps growing no matter how much resources they keep throwing at stricter border controls and trying to reduce both supply and demand by arresting everyone with even traces of Cannabinoids in their blood. https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports/2019/sweden_en https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/country-drug-reports... > People selling drugs such as fentanyl or cocaine have various techniques to hook consumers and keep them addicted regardless of their mental state. Selling hard drugs is criminalized for a good reason. You're making the argument for why these things should be sold in controlled circumstances, rather than by private individuals who don't care about anything else but themselves, yet you end with "is criminalized for a good reason". Completely opposite, you're making the argument for why it needs to be legalized.
- Saline9515 9mo ago
  There is a difference between "0 tolerance", which affects mainly users, and "no entry", which prevents the product to reach your border. In the case of Sweden, it is mainly a symptom of non-european immigration, using their criminal networks to import the product. Netherland is dominated by Moroccan mafia, France by the Algerian mafia, and so on. Remigrating them would likely solve a big part of the problem. > controlled selling Yes, that's already the case in most countries: I can get opioids such as morphine in the case of surgical operation. Many ADHD teens get derivatives of amphetamines. No one is against this.