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They're too busy worrying about making rent and defending their neighbors from getting abducted by masked adult boys

by blurbleblurble 10mo ago

miroljub 10mo ago
> getting abducted by masked adult boys Which boys?
- cogman10 10mo ago
  ICE
  - miroljub 10mo ago
    They now employ minors? Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE?
    - cogman10 10mo ago
      If you are brown, pretty realistic given the number of brown citizens ICE has deported. [1] [1] https://nipnlg.org/news/press-releases/ice-deports-man-claiming-us-citizenship-laos-despite-federal-court-order https://nipnlg.org/news/press-releases/ice-deports-man-claim...
      - sejje 10mo ago
        How many is it? Your link gets us to 1, and it's from months ago. I expected you to link the number since you're claiming it's high. Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025, so what would be high here? Edit: I also googled that man's name. A quick read of nbcs article suggests it's not clear he's a citizen. The judge said he "had a substantial claim to citizenship," which means nothing either way. He was born in Thailand. "In his Nov. 3 brief, [a lawyer] contends Souvannarath stayed in the United States for 19 years after his removal order without challenging it or seeking proof of citizenship."
        nickthegreek 10mo ago
        > Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025 I love how you get to use unconfirmed bullshit numbers in your argument but then demand an exact count for the opposition to mix with your nonsense.
        sejje 10mo ago
        Well I have an exact count already of deported citizens in 2025: zero. The official DHS statistics quote over 605k deported: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-a... The guardian says 327,000 a few weeks ago: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/ice-detentions-record-immigration https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/ice-detentio... You do the math
        malcolmgreaves 10mo ago
        “I’m quoting the numbers from the fascists themselves. See they’re doing nothing wrong!”
        sejje 10mo ago
        Okay, how many people do you think they've deported?
    - nickthegreek 10mo ago
      Several law abiding citizens have been caught up in the ice dragnet. Pay attention.
      - sejje 10mo ago
        Several? Like three? 3/600,000 removals in 2025 = .000005% chance So, to answer his question: not realistic at all that you'll get deported as a citizen. That's without fact checking you. I haven't seen anything about actual citizens being removed, including in the sibling comment claiming it with a reference.
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        nickthegreek 10mo ago
        > Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE? Perhaps you are having trouble following the conversation. The argument put forth by OP is that ICE is endangering american citizens. That is factually true. https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...
        sejje 10mo ago
        Oh sorry, you snuck that and changed the subject in while we were taking about people being deported, to try to salvage a point. I'm way more concerned with regular law enforcement endangering American citizens than ICE.
        nickthegreek 10mo ago
        I didn’t sneak anything in - you failed to follow a thread. Why are you trying to put that on me? It’s okay to admit fault and take responsibility. It is obvious at this point that you do not care or won’t take the time to understand the conversation or respond in good faith. My concern covers all LEO fucking with American citizens, especially the masked and unidentified ones.

They're too busy worrying about making rent and defending their neighbors from getting abducted by masked adult boys

miroljub 10mo ago

> getting abducted by masked adult boys Which boys?

cogman10 10mo ago
ICE
- miroljub 10mo ago
  They now employ minors? Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE?
  - cogman10 10mo ago
    If you are brown, pretty realistic given the number of brown citizens ICE has deported. [1] [1] https://nipnlg.org/news/press-releases/ice-deports-man-claiming-us-citizenship-laos-despite-federal-court-order https://nipnlg.org/news/press-releases/ice-deports-man-claim...
    - sejje 10mo ago
      How many is it? Your link gets us to 1, and it's from months ago. I expected you to link the number since you're claiming it's high. Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025, so what would be high here? Edit: I also googled that man's name. A quick read of nbcs article suggests it's not clear he's a citizen. The judge said he "had a substantial claim to citizenship," which means nothing either way. He was born in Thailand. "In his Nov. 3 brief, [a lawyer] contends Souvannarath stayed in the United States for 19 years after his removal order without challenging it or seeking proof of citizenship."
      - nickthegreek 10mo ago
        > Supposedly there's been 500k deportations, and 2.5m "self-deportations" in 2025 I love how you get to use unconfirmed bullshit numbers in your argument but then demand an exact count for the opposition to mix with your nonsense.
        sejje 10mo ago
        Well I have an exact count already of deported citizens in 2025: zero. The official DHS statistics quote over 605k deported: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-and-secretary-noem-more-25-million-illegal-aliens-left-us https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/10/thanks-president-trump-a... The guardian says 327,000 a few weeks ago: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/ice-detentions-record-immigration https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/ice-detentio... You do the math
        malcolmgreaves 10mo ago
        “I’m quoting the numbers from the fascists themselves. See they’re doing nothing wrong!”
        sejje 10mo ago
        Okay, how many people do you think they've deported?
  - nickthegreek 10mo ago
    Several law abiding citizens have been caught up in the ice dragnet. Pay attention.
    - sejje 10mo ago
      Several? Like three? 3/600,000 removals in 2025 = .000005% chance So, to answer his question: not realistic at all that you'll get deported as a citizen. That's without fact checking you. I haven't seen anything about actual citizens being removed, including in the sibling comment claiming it with a reference.
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      - nickthegreek 10mo ago
        > Besides, how realistic is a fear that a law abiding citizen would be endangered by the ICE? Perhaps you are having trouble following the conversation. The argument put forth by OP is that ICE is endangering american citizens. That is factually true. https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...
        sejje 10mo ago
        Oh sorry, you snuck that and changed the subject in while we were taking about people being deported, to try to salvage a point. I'm way more concerned with regular law enforcement endangering American citizens than ICE.
        nickthegreek 10mo ago
        I didn’t sneak anything in - you failed to follow a thread. Why are you trying to put that on me? It’s okay to admit fault and take responsibility. It is obvious at this point that you do not care or won’t take the time to understand the conversation or respond in good faith. My concern covers all LEO fucking with American citizens, especially the masked and unidentified ones.