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Maduro is a piece of shit. But a military invasion of another country to commit regime change is literally what Russia tried to do to Ukraine. America has blo
by girvo 10mo ago
Maduro is a piece of shit.
But a military invasion of another country to commit regime change is literally what Russia tried to do to Ukraine.
America has blood on it's hands yet again.
EDIT: If the reports are true that Maduro has been captured and the fighting stops, then that's the best resolution one could hope out of this horrible situation. I pray for the Venezuelan people.
- nospice 10mo agoRight, and that's what the Allies did in Germany in 1945. I don't think it's helpful to paint everything with such a broad brush. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. They took part of it in 2014, then came back for more, and then organized sham annexation referendums in the regions they did control. Whatever the US is trying to achieve in Venezuela, it's probably not that. All war is deplorable, but some lead to good outcomes and some to bad ones.
- girvo 10mo ago> Russia is trying to annex Ukraine And to start with they were trying to achieve this through regime change via a "surgical" (by their standards) strike on the government and capital. That failed. America is doing this explicitly to take control of Venezuela's resources. It's no different.
- swiftcoder 10mo ago> Whatever the US is trying to achieve in Venezuela, it's probably not that Presumably we're only trying to annex their oil reserves
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- girvo 10mo agoGoing to change your tune now that Trump has said that the US will run Venezuela? They’re not even pretending. This is far far more similar than it is different.
- NetMageSCW 10mo agoNo, what Russia has tried to do to Ukraine is annex it as part of Russia. Not nearly the same, even if both are reprehensible.
- raverbashing 10mo agoSome regimes deserved to be changed (and of course there are second order consequences) I know some sheltered academics on Epstein's list disagree with that but that's a hill I will die on
- calf 10mo agoChomsky's argument was never that "no regime deserves to be changed", so maybe academic skills come in useful when comprehending arguments, books, and hills.
- throwaway85825 10mo agoThe critical reaction is from the people on the Venezuelan street tomorrow.
- girvo 10mo agoI’m naively hopeful that they will band together without more bloodshed. I worry though
- throwaway85825 10mo agoEither the Venezuelan people demand new elections or a Maduro faction member succeeds him with the support of the military.
- ric2b 10mo agoI'm old enough to remember people in Iraq cheering for the fall of Saddam. Didn't make it great.