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For almost all cases, there is absolutely zero need to ever remember addresses, or dealing with them directly. Give your devices proper names, and your router’s
by 9dev 9mo ago
For almost all cases, there is absolutely zero need to ever remember addresses, or dealing with them directly. Give your devices proper names, and your router’s DNS will handle resolution automatically.
There is no point in your network having sequential addresses, so you don’t need DHCP; routers advertise configuration, clients know where to look for it.
IPv6 is amazing, if you let it handle connectivity without trying to micromanage it.
- Ekaros 9mo agoI think this is the big hangup. Wanting to micromanage each and every address. Instead of letting it just manage itself. Reminds me on some level of the pet vs cattle of containers and servers. Mental switch is needed. And many are resistant towards this.
- globular-toast 9mo agoOne thing I've noticed is if people have spent a long time learning something they are incredibly reluctant to switch to something that no longer requires that knowledge. It's like driving an automatic car when you've already learnt to drive manual. I see this pattern everywhere and people are definitely reluctant to give up their hard-earned v4 knowledge. Remembering IP addresses... How quaint!
- mixmastamyk 9mo agoSounds like me. My concern, if one just forgets everything, how does one know if their router, firewall, etc are too permissive? Security is still my responsibility. And one still needs to pay attention for ipv4, so what is the benefit? A simultaneous half-vigilant, half-careless stance is not workable.
- aboardRat4 9mo agoWhat do you mean by "give your devices proper names"?
- 9dev 9mo agoJust plain old hostnames really.
- aboardRat4 9mo agoHostnames are either in a static hosts file, which you need to distribute to your machines somehow (probably using older names or raw addresses, which you do not know, because need the names in the first place), or a DNS, and for most people the DNS is under ISP's control. Even if you have your own DNS server out there somewhere, you still need to allow a bit of DNS hijacking from your ISP in order to receive that verification SMS and enter the code into the ISP's log-in page. DNS is a great thing, but just too much of a pain to configure.
- preisschild 9mo agomDNS handles this too and is zero-configuration.
- aboardRat4 9mo agoDoes your Android phone do mDNS?
- preisschild 9mo agoYes? At least on GrapheneOS (Android 16 QPR2) it works
- 9dev 9mo agoAny bog-Standard home router will resolve hostnames on your LAN, and that’s everything you require in most cases. No ISP involvement at all.
- aboardRat4 9mo agoNot every bog standard home router can do ndp proxying.