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I think something like The Hague is the moderate position with this administration.

by mdhb 9mo ago

tguvot 9mo ago
Venezuela is in process of leaving ICC and USA is not party to ICC.
epistasis 9mo ago
There's a definite reason that the Trump regime has sanctioned ICC personnel, disallowing them access to things like Microsoft software and unbanking them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
  > a definite reason that the Trump regime has sanctioned ICC personnel Yeah. Pettiness. The ICC doesn't have jurisdiction in the United States. We aren't a signatory to the Rome Statute. (Most of the world's population doesn't live under its jurisdiction.)
  - mdhb 9mo ago
    There is no way the former allies of the US are going to normalise relations with them before they fix this though. The fallout for this is going to be a lot larger than I think you suspect.
    - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
      > no way the former allies of the US are going to normalise relations with them before they fix this though I think you genuinely hold this take and it's admirable. I'm not seeing any indication (a) our militarised allies are behaving particularly differently or (b) they're concerned about us bombing stuff in the Western Hemisphere. (Versus in their backyards, creating refugee crises.) > fallout for this is going to be a lot larger than I think you suspect Maybe. Hopefully. I doubt it. Russia, China, Israel, France and the UK are doing fine.
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biggestlou 9mo ago
Name a government in the OECD that’s fundamentally opposed to this intervention
- hermanzegerman 9mo ago
  Denmark? They already condemned it, and are also repeatedly threatened by the schoolyard bullies
- smashah 9mo ago
  Translation: "Name a Zionist-holocaust-of-babies-supporting-pedophile-rapist-infested-government in the OECD that’s fundamentally opposed to this intervention" Great moral measuring stick...
- _pferreir_ 9mo ago
  Most European governments have already, in their own (weak) way expressed that this intervention isn't legitimate according to international law.
  - biggestlou 9mo ago
    Which international law? Where's the book of international law?
    - _pferreir_ 9mo ago
      Seriously? There you go: https://legal.un.org/avl/studymaterials/handbook/english/book_1.pdf https://legal.un.org/avl/studymaterials/handbook/english/boo... That's just book one, BTW.
      - biggestlou 9mo ago
        And if you violate those laws, what happens?
throwaway2026-2 9mo ago
This administration is just a continuation of the last administration. Same policies on anything important. But it is possible you missed the Gaza Genocide?

I think something like The Hague is the moderate position with this administration.

by mdhb 9mo ago

I think something like The Hague is the moderate position with this administration.

tguvot 9mo ago

Venezuela is in process of leaving ICC and USA is not party to ICC.

epistasis 9mo ago

There's a definite reason that the Trump regime has sanctioned ICC personnel, disallowing them access to things like Microsoft software and unbanking them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14203

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> a definite reason that the Trump regime has sanctioned ICC personnel Yeah. Pettiness. The ICC doesn't have jurisdiction in the United States. We aren't a signatory to the Rome Statute. (Most of the world's population doesn't live under its jurisdiction.)
- mdhb 9mo ago
  There is no way the former allies of the US are going to normalise relations with them before they fix this though. The fallout for this is going to be a lot larger than I think you suspect.
  - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
    > no way the former allies of the US are going to normalise relations with them before they fix this though I think you genuinely hold this take and it's admirable. I'm not seeing any indication (a) our militarised allies are behaving particularly differently or (b) they're concerned about us bombing stuff in the Western Hemisphere. (Versus in their backyards, creating refugee crises.) > fallout for this is going to be a lot larger than I think you suspect Maybe. Hopefully. I doubt it. Russia, China, Israel, France and the UK are doing fine.
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biggestlou 9mo ago

Name a government in the OECD that’s fundamentally opposed to this intervention

hermanzegerman 9mo ago
Denmark? They already condemned it, and are also repeatedly threatened by the schoolyard bullies
smashah 9mo ago
Translation: "Name a Zionist-holocaust-of-babies-supporting-pedophile-rapist-infested-government in the OECD that’s fundamentally opposed to this intervention" Great moral measuring stick...
_pferreir_ 9mo ago
Most European governments have already, in their own (weak) way expressed that this intervention isn't legitimate according to international law.
- biggestlou 9mo ago
  Which international law? Where's the book of international law?
  - _pferreir_ 9mo ago
    Seriously? There you go: https://legal.un.org/avl/studymaterials/handbook/english/book_1.pdf https://legal.un.org/avl/studymaterials/handbook/english/boo... That's just book one, BTW.
    - biggestlou 9mo ago
      And if you violate those laws, what happens?

throwaway2026-2 9mo ago

This administration is just a continuation of the last administration. Same policies on anything important. But it is possible you missed the Gaza Genocide?