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His defenders kept, and keep, using it as an excuse.

• JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
  > His defenders kept, and keep, using it as an excuse Genuine request for a source here.
  • tome 10mo ago
    Seconded. I don't recall hearing anyone talk about "the rules based order" until a couple of years ago.
    • ModernMech 10mo ago
      When Trump talks about rules, laws, and order it’s in the “L'État, c'est moi” (the state is me) sense. I.e. following the law means following his whims.
  • joshuahaglund 10mo ago
    https://time.com/5846321/nixon-trump-law-and-order-history/ https://time.com/5846321/nixon-trump-law-and-order-history/ (They said law and order, because they couldn't say anti black)
    • JumpCrisscross 10mo ago
      > (They said law and order, because they couldn't say anti black) Law and order != rules-based international order.
• epistasis 10mo ago
  Never. Trump wants to be a dictator, he loves Putin, he wants power and any "rules" that control him are antithetical to his entire political program and to his political party. Anybody who wants a rules based order is extremely anti-Trump, just as they are anti-Putin.
• jennyholzer3 10mo ago
  that's what you get for having conversations with fascists